Tier 8-B: The Ultimate Quest Tournament (2022): Big Boss vs Johnny Test

[speedster352]

He'd have to know it's coming, also EMP's, homing rockets and missiles, etc and having ample experience with fliers, BB has even taken out flying mecha that eclipse him in stats and range.

Johnny's usual leading form in this key is attacking and overwhelming the opponent with his kung-fu skills if they are unarmed, but if he notices the opponent is equipped with something and/or is bigger and stronger than him, he won't hesitate to lead with Susan and Mary's inventions as he is very prone of using them to save his life.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

broadway manipulation to force snake out and dnace

Um... no.

Broadway Force is never useful, and Johnny never uses it in character.

 

[Chariot190]

Also let's not forget the LS, what's stopping BB from just sneaking up on Test and grappling him with his ludicrous LS advantage?
Dude literally eclipses him, he would never break free, dude could incap with one hand and use the other to administer sleeping, toxins, shock, etc.
If he has the spirit camo, he would literally life hax him or even drain his psyche.

What if he used that along with invisibility?

Soliton and the dozen other radars and marking would still allow BB to know where he is. And again, he has to know it's coming, what's good body control if you're taken out off guard, from a mile away, with an attack you can't see, sense or even hear coming. Let alone traps that proc based on his own actions that would effect regardless of control, like gas and inhalable substances.

And BB>Venom who can manhandle the Skulls, who all have body control.

 

[Arcker123]

Snake FRA

 

[Chariot190]

Johnny's usual leading form in this key is attacking and overwhelming the opponent with his kung-fu skills if they are unarmed, but if he notices the opponent is equipped with something and/or is bigger and stronger than him, he won't hesitate to lead with Susan and Mary's inventions as he is very prone of using them to save his life.

I'm going to ignore you just said Johnny tries to lead with kung fu, against a dude he wouldn't know would skill **** him into the dirt the moment he tried.
And he has multiple inventions, why is time stop suddenly his go to?

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Test will just stop time when the projectile is about to hit and find snakes location that way and Johnny has hammerspace and toon force and broadway manipulation to force snake out and dnace

He doesn't know that he's about to be sniped so how will he know and accurately time stop it if he doesn't know where BB is and when is BB gonna attack

 

[speedster352]

He doesn't know that he's about to be sniped so how will he know and accurately time stop it if he doesn't know where BB is and when is BB gonna attack

Turbo Action Backpack: A backpack designed to do whatever the owner tells it to. It has a built-in Shrink-ray, can turn into a car, give someone a bath, project holograms and movies, turn into a video game system and has a Jet-pack. he can use this and say find snake

 

[speedster352]

I'm going to ignore you just said Johnny tries to lead with kung fu, against a dude he wouldn't know would skill **** him into the dirt the moment he tried.
And he has multiple inventions, why is time stop suddenly his go to?

He sees snake is armed or bigger than him he will resort to his gadgets

 

[speedster352]

Um... no.

Broadway Force is never useful, and Johnny never uses it in character.

We need counters quick

 

[RandomGuy2345]

This shit is hardly fair bruh.

 

[Chariot190]

Also as mentioned, BB could probably UNIRONICALLY use talk no jutsu to dismantle the situation and have Johnny stand down or even join him.

He sees snake is armed or bigger than him he will resort to his gadgets

I'm going to ignore you just said an 8-B seeing a normal man (who says Big Boss' weapons visible? He's not dumb, you don't announce or show your weapons on display, you keep them hidden) would immediately resort to using time stop. That's a huge leap in logic.

Turbo Action Backpack: A backpack designed to do whatever the owner tells it to. It has a built-in Shrink-ray, can turn into a car, give someone a bath, project holograms and movies, turn into a video game system and has a Jet-pack. he can use this and say find snake

Except no he can't, literally NONE of that is helpful in finding snake, like what the hell, giving a bath is so helpful finding the dude who's undetectable through a dozen different means simultaneously.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

He sees snake is armed or bigger than him he will resort to his gadgets

You just quoted a to chariot that he usually lead to kungfu? and now you say he will resort to gadgets because he sees snake is armed or bigger than him? you're contradicting yourself

 

[Popted2]

Big Boss FRA

 

[DemonicDude]

Nierre FRA

 

[speedster352]

Construction Drones: Robots programmed to build anything the user tells them to. He canget heat seeking googles this way
Super Smarty Pants: A pair of white pants with a microchip belt buckle that when worn, increase the user's intelligence and more. The pants however, became alive and developed emotions. Johnny used the pants to impress Janet Nelson Jr., but the pants became jealous. Electric Lettuce Accelator: Electros that can be plugged into a head of soil. They're supposed to excelerate vegetable growth but failed. This was one of the lost inventions by Thomas Edison. When Johnny and Dukey went back in time, they suggested using nachos, which Thomas Edison added to his plans, thus why the invention makes nachos. He can use this to find snakes location

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Except no he can't, literally NONE of that is helpful in finding snake, like what the hell, giving a bath is so helpful finding the dude who's undetectable through a dozen different means simultaneously.

Giving a bath is some of the stuff the backpack can do. You just have to give any command, and the backpack will do that.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

But overall, this might honestly be a stomp.

 

[Chariot190]

Giving a bath is some of the stuff the backpack can do. You just have to give any command, and the backpack will do that.

What we see it do, is what it does, anything beyond that encroaches on NLF, and what Speed listed is very much not helpful here.

 

[speedster352]

Also as mentioned, BB could probably UNIRONICALLY use talk no jutsu to dismantle the situation and have Johnny stand down or even join him.



I'm going to ignore you just said an 8-B seeing a normal man (who says Big Boss' weapons visible? He's not dumb, you don't announce or show your weapons on display, you keep them hidden) would immediately resort to using time stop. That's a huge leap in logic.



Except no he can't, literally NONE of that is helpful in finding snake, like what the hell, giving a bath is so helpful finding the dude who's undetectable through a dozen different means simultaneously.

It has an auto-protection system Armored Suits: Purple and white suits of armor Susan and Mary probably made out of titanium, meant to protect them, Johnny and Dukey from the evil Robot Pals.

 

[speedster352]

What we see it do, is what it does, anything beyond that encroaches on NLF, and what Speed listed is very much not helpful here.

It has an auto defense system(barriers and etc) and can help him find snake by being asked too

 

[speedster352]

Giant Pod: A giant pod made by Bling Bling. He used it to capture Susan, and filled it with an arcade, a chef, movies, a pool, and more to impress Susan. It has arms and legs to walk around and pick things up. It also has several tubes used for sucking things into it. It has the ability to use it's top to crush things. Other features include a giant badminton racket, a hose, and missiles. This can find snake

What we see it do, is what it does, anything beyond that encroaches on NLF, and what Speed listed is very much not helpful here.

 

[Popted2]

dude,

your "arguments" are very much NLF, let talk Random at least he know what Johnny can do

 

[Chariot190]

Voting BB unless someone can unironically prove Test immediately opens up with Time Stop quicker than it takes BB to do like, idk, any of his own leads?

It has an auto defense system(barriers and etc) and can help him find snake by being asked too

You acting like Snake doesn't have the means to bypass that, dude can literally roll up with a black hole.
And yeah, so it asks it to help? ANd then what. Snake is impervious to NVG, HT, Sonar, light based visuals (so basic perception), and more, he also knows when Test is coming due to Soliton and thus, can avoid him every time. I could go on, who gives a damn if he asks it to find him, doesn't mean it can.

Also mentioning this again, Big Boss has multiple EMP's with huge AOE, any reason why these EMP's wouldnt render that jetpack and other stuff moot?

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Giant Pod: A giant pod made by Bling Bling. He used it to capture Susan, and filled it with an arcade, a chef, movies, a pool, and more to impress Susan. It has arms and legs to walk around and pick things up. It also has several tubes used for sucking things into it. It has the ability to use it's top to crush things. Other features include a giant badminton racket, a hose, and missiles. This can find snake

Stop spamming messages it's either make an constructive and long argument and put there all the things you want to say or wait for the other's to reply and counter the things you've said

 

[Chariot190]

Giant Pod: A giant pod made by Bling Bling. He used it to capture Susan, and filled it with an arcade, a chef, movies, a pool, and more to impress Susan. It has arms and legs to walk around and pick things up. It also has several tubes used for sucking things into it. It has the ability to use it's top to crush things. Other features include a giant badminton racket, a hose, and missiles. This can find snake

It can't find Snake. And Big Boss' EMP's can destabilize mecha, it's honestly one of the most common uses of it.

 

[Popted2]

Stop spamming messages it's either make an constructive and long argument and put there all the things you want to say or wait for the other's to reply and counter the things you've said

its useless this guy never stopped doing this

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Big Boss FRA

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Voting BB unless someone can unironically prove Test immediately opens up with Time Stop quicker than it takes BB to do like, idk, any of his own leads?

He'll use it the moment he realizes he can't find BB at all.

Also mentioning this again, Big Boss has multiple EMP's with huge AOE, any reason why these EMP's wouldnt render that jetpack and other stuff moot?

Because Johnny'll be in mid air due to the backpack having flight.

 

[speedster352]

Voting BB unless someone can unironically prove Test immediately opens up with Time Stop quicker than it takes BB to do like, idk, any of his own leads?



You acting like Snake doesn't have the means to bypass that, dude can literally roll up with a black hole.
And yeah, so it asks it to help? ANd then what. Snake is impervious to NVG, HT, Sonar, light based visuals (so basic perception), and more, he also knows when Test is coming due to Soliton and thus, can avoid him every time. I could go on, who gives a damn if he asks it to find him, doesn't mean it can.

Also mentioning this again, Big Boss has multiple EMP's with huge AOE, any reason why these EMP's wouldnt render that jetpack and other stuff moot?

Nope Johnny will dodge and the pack will protect johnny at all cost. Also test can rewind time if he can't win and make a strategy Saturday Repeater Machine: A small box like machine with a red "snooze" button on it. When pressed, the day automatically rewinds to the beginning of the most previous Saturday.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Going through this thread makes me wanna play all MG games

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Nope Johnny will dodge and the pack will protect johnny at all cost. Also test can rewind time if he can't win and make a strategy Saturday Repeater Machine: A small box like machine with a red "snooze" button on it. When pressed, the day automatically rewinds to the beginning of the most previous Saturday.

How will Johnny dodge if he doesn't know it's coming and when it's coming, you're just saying right know it won't hit and Johnny will use SRM without properly explaining or countering them and you act like the the packs protect system can't be bypassed

 

[Chariot190]

Dodge how? Dodge an attack he can't see, can't hear, can't sense, etc.
And the pack won't be doing much if it gets disabled due to EMP's.

This is ignoring BB commonly deploys gas tactics like sleeping gas, is the pack gonna cut off all air flow too? Is it gonna asphyxiate test himself killing him so he doesn't accidentally breathe in a substance you can't even prove it'd be able to detect?
And the time rewind, that's cool, but who's to say that doesn't get disabled? Or who's to say Test isn't taken out before he ever gets the chance to even attempt to use it, sleep hax, stun hax, boiling steam, incap guns, or even a bullet through the head or back to immobilize or cripple his arms.
What about BB simply outmuscling him via LS, or a stun rod that would fry him with 1.5m volts? etc.

 

[DemonicDude]

Same and watch Johnny Test too.

 

[speedster352]

This is literally not fair at all

 

[RandomGuy2345]

What we see it do, is what it does, anything beyond that encroaches on NLF, and what Speed listed is very much not helpful here.

Saying something as simples as "Find my opponent" is not an NLF. An NLF would be like me saying that Johnny can command the Backpack to kill BB. That's an NLF.

 

[Chariot190]

Because Johnny'll be in mid air due to the backpack having flight.

Yeah so? I mentioned the EMP's have huge AOE did I not? It's like a dome.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Same and watch Johnny Test too.

W comment.

I recommend the first 4 seasons.

 

[speedster352]

Yeah so? I mentioned the EMP's have huge AOE did I not? It's like a dome.

Auto defense barriers counter this

 

[Chariot190]

Saying something as simples as "Find my opponent" is not an NLF. An NLF would be like me saying that Johnny can command the Backpack to kill BB. That's an NLF.

Yeah, and how's it gonna do that? If you can't explain how it'd find him while he has like ten layers of equipment making him undetectable, yeah, huge NLF lads.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

And tbh you're ignoring the fact that Johnny is prone to making ignorant decisions and can be gullible and plus BB has the intelligence advantage