Tier 1 Dragon Ball Is Finally Here, And Hypertimelines Are Back On The Menu! *Visible Groaning Ensues*

[GarrixianXD]

Usually, staff overreaching happens if a thread gets too heated and controversial to prevent toxicity. This CRT however, does not yet have any heated arguments so conveying this to the staff discussions isn't entirely necessary.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Ok, which characters would be affected by this? I suppose Heroes's?

 

[SuperSonicTL]

Seems good enough so count me as agree.

 

[TiltedFN]

Ok, which characters would be affected by this? I suppose Heroes's?

We shouldn't discuss who scales right now, we need to actually get this accepted first.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

We shouldn't discuss who scales right now, we need to actually get this accepted first.

I think it's needed, I mean, after all the OP explanation needs a pruporse and to reveal with detail what he wants to reach exactly... either upgrading the cosomology or characters themselves.

 

[CryoTheMayo]

I think it's needed, I mean, after all the OP explanation needs a pruporse and to reveal with detail what he wants to reach exactly... either upgrading the cosomology or characters themselves.

The thread is just for the cosmology.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

The thread is just for the cosmology.

Ok thanks

 

[pineappleman]

This is probably the most well written explanation I've read of such a complex subject on this site, bravo.
Agreed

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Agree

 

[KLOL506]

I think it's needed, I mean, after all the OP explanation needs a pruporse and to reveal with detail what he wants to reach exactly... either upgrading the cosomology or characters themselves.

No. Threads involving controversial verses and Tier 1 almost never go well by default, adding scaling on top just makes things worse. Much, much worse.

You should 100% focus on cosmology first and then iron out the scaling later. That's the only way you get to keep a successful track record on CRTs like these (Just ask the Marvel Revisions and GoW Revisions).

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

I concur with KLOL.

 

[TiltedFN]

I have to sleep, will address any potential counterarguments when i can.

 

[Unqver]

As soon as I came back, I was pleasantly surprised. Anyway, I agree

 

[Stefano4444]

Inclined to agree but i will wait to see if anyone bring any counterargument.

 

[TheGreatBanana]

After reading through the OP, i came to a conclusion.
I fortunately tell you all that the OP did infact...cook a 7 star meal. I agree.

 

[speedster352]

I agree with the op

 

[SYPHe5D]

It only misses some spice but he cooked good.

 

[Da3ggman]

"It's been 5,000 years..."

Thank you, my friend, for finally achieving the dream me and so many DB fans on this site have been chasing for years.

I agree.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

No. Threads involving controversial verses and Tier 1 almost never go well by default, adding scaling on top just makes things worse. Much, much worse.

You should 100% focus on cosmology first and then iron out the scaling later. That's the only way you get to keep a successful track record on CRTs like these (Just ask the Marvel Revisions and GoW Revisions).

the vsbw likes to make everything difficult, yea.

Anyway i agree with thread

 

[Brogeefrong]

"It's been 5,000 years..."

Thank you, my friend, for finally achieving the dream me and so many DB fans on this site have been chasing for years.

I agree.

there was a short period when beerus and zeno had 5d smurf stuff for a while
also agree

 

[SqubiNavrdx]

A vote count would be nice I see a lot of agrees and little disagrees.

 

[CloverDragon03]

A vote count would be nice I see a lot of agrees and little disagrees.

I don’t think any staff have given a stance though, and those are the votes you really need to get this accepted

 

[Deagonx]

I'm going to be removing unneeded comments. Remember that this is not a general discussion thread. If you've already given your agreement and you aren't participating in a discussion, please refrain from making this thread longer than it needs to be.

 

[Da3ggman]

I'm going to be removing unneeded comments. Remember that this is not a general discussion thread. If you've already given your agreement and you aren't participating in a discussion, please refrain from making this thread longer than it needs to be.

I'm assuming regular users need permission to comment further, correct?

 

[CloverDragon03]

I'm assuming regular users need permission to comment further, correct?

This isn’t a staff discussion thread atm so no, just make sure the comments aren’t derailing

 

[Da3ggman]

This isn’t a staff discussion thread atm so no, just make sure the comments aren’t derailing

Ah, thank you.

 

[ImmortalDread]

I am being completely frank, 3/4 of the entire thread is made of

• Standards
• Ultima Quotes
• DT quotes
• More Standards
• Executor_N0 comments
• Whataboutism arguments
• And one relevant scan

Like, are you trying to explain the standards or suggest that the cosmology is low 1-C and someone scale to it? Is there any other scans because reading through, this is the single relevant-cosmology-verse-related scan?

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

I am being completely frank, 3/4 of the entire thread is made of

• Standards

I don’t see the problem with bringing up the standards, it helps to bring everyone onto the same page.

• Ultima Quotes

I don’t see the problem with this, for reasons above.

• DT quotes

I don’t see the problem with this either, FRA.

• Whataboutism arguments

I thought I deleted all of that? If there’s anything left in the OP, please point it out to me.

• And one relevant scan

Are you just going to ignore my explanation about the recent standards change, and the two CRT’s I cited in which it was accepted? That was the main point of this post, and I highlighted a disclaimer regarding that.

Like, are you trying to explain the standards or suggest that the cosmology is low 1-C and someone scale to it? Is there any other scans because reading through, this is the single relevant-cosmology-verse-related scan?

I feel like you’re being a little disingenuous. You’re not really criticizing the arguments themselves. You’re also hugely misrepresenting this post’s subject matter. I explained why I believe Dragon Ball qualifies for Low 1-C, and went out of my way to emphasize the new evidence. I feel uneasy when you ignore something like that.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

I am being completely frank, 3/4 of the entire thread is made of

• Standards
• Ultima Quotes
• DT quotes
• More Standards
• Executor_N0 comments
• Whataboutism arguments
• And one relevant scan

Like, are you trying to explain the standards or suggest that the cosmology is low 1-C and someone scale to it? Is there any other scans because reading through, this is the single relevant-cosmology-verse-related scan?

he explains how the standards apply to the argument. thats literally the main point of the CRT

 

[ImmortalDread]

You are a bit aggressive, but it is fine. I never said I have any problems with that.

Are you just going to ignore my explanation about the recent standards change, and the two CRT’s I cited in which it was accepted? That was the main point of this post, and I highlighted a disclaimer regarding that.

I was not even trying to ignore. Likewise, I am trying to understand, the evidence of low 1-C you are basing it off.

I feel like you’re being a little disingenuous. You’re not really criticizing the arguments themselves. You’re also hugely misrepresenting this post’s subject matter. I explained why I believe Dragon Ball qualifies for Low 1-C, and went out of my way to emphasize the new evidence. I feel uneasy when you ignore something like that.

How am I being disingenuous when I am asking which shreds of evidence you are using to suggest low 1-C

 

[Brogeefrong]

Yeah should prolly put a tldr to where the Low 1-C db stuff is

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

I of course agree. Good work.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

@Ultima_Reality @DontTalkDT

This is important, the OP is using quotes from you both and are going by your supposed standards. Is this thread correct in its assessment regarding the cosmology of Dragon Ball being Tier 1 or not?

 

[ImmortalDread]

It would be highly advisable to clearly specify the scans you are using as the basis for the low 1-C. This practice aligns with constitutional principles and ensures transparency in the justification process, regardless of whether the proposal is approved or not.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

It would be highly advisable to clearly specify the scans you are using as the basis for the low 1-C. This practice aligns with constitutional principles and ensures transparency in the justification process, regardless of whether the proposal is approved or not.

What is the new evidence that allows Dragon Ball to qualify for Low 1-C?​

This is the part most of you were waiting to see. As I've been explaining, an overarching timeline is only Low 1-C if you can confirm that the lesser space-times it services harbor their own time dimensions on top of being spatiotemporally separate: only then can you say the cosmology consists of two temporal dimensions. As for the evidence, we won't be providing it for acceptance in this CRT as it's been approved already. Through these two recent minor CRT's that aimed to increase the tier 2 justifications, it was accepted that the Low 2-C space-times of Dragon Ball are serviced by their own time dimensions. Beyond that, you have the overarching timeline we all know and love. This means technically speaking, the cosmology is already approved for Low 1-C. Our cosmology now has the exact same justificationsas the hypertimelines which have been accepted already.

The basis is the two minor CRT’s I linked here, which were approved already within the past couple weeks.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

The basis is the two minor CRT’s I linked here, which were approved already within the past couple weeks.

Just to clarify, your blog appears to be gone and there is nothing there anymore.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Just to clarify, your blog appears to be gone and there is nothing there anymore.

You can find it on db toeiverse cosmology page on wiki

 

[ImmortalDread]

I don't understand.

You are linking two CRTs. One is for tier 2 and has nothing to do with tier 1 (low 1-C) and the other one is for suggesting abilities.

Lastly, you linked the exact scan I mentioned before. So I am right to assume, this is the single scan you are basing off your low 1-C proposal?

So my question still remains:

Like, are you trying to explain the standards or suggest that the cosmology is low 1-C and someone scale to it? Is there any other scans because reading through, this is the single relevant-cosmology-verse-related scan?

Before I choose my stance here.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

I don't understand.

You are linking two CRTs. One is for tier 2 and has nothing to do with tier 1 (low 1-C) and the other one is for suggesting abilities.

Lastly, you linked the exact scan I mentioned before. So I am right to assume, this is the single scan you are basing off your low 1-C proposal?

So my question still remains:

Before I choose my stance here.

Both of the CRT’s are for increasing tier 2 justifications that would allow tier 1.

 

[ImmortalDread]

So,

Could you please provide all the relevant scans we are currently discussing? This will help clarify the specific scan you are referring to, allowing us to avoid any assumptions about your perspective.

Thank you.