Thor TABS upgrade

[Peppersalt43]

So a legacy unit called Thor can summon cloud-to-ground lightning. He scales to the units that can destroy the wall with one hit in this calc so everyone there bumps up to 9-A. This also includes dura upgrades to the projectile tanks like Cacti, Hay Balers, and Blunderbuss as they can tank hits from the Balista who is also capable of destroying the wall with one hit

 

[Alexander]

the question is,the characters who scale are the ones who tank the attacks from thor or the ones who can defeat thor

 

[Peppersalt43]

Probably both

The problem with this is that a lot of units can hurt one another. So for durability issue, unless the character has AP that scales to Thor or explicitly has the purpose to tank projectiles (Which includes Balista), I would suggest their durability still scales to the 2-hitters

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

The problem with this is that a lot of units can hurt one another. So for durability issue, unless the character has AP that scales to Thor or explicitly has the purpose to tank projectiles (Which includes Balista), I would suggest their durability still scales to the 2-hitters

I agree with this

 

[Alexander]

I agree with this

I would think that it would be something more like, if the unit is consistently superior or comparable to another, then scale, in case it is a unit that its objective is to be a super attack (ballistas) and the damage is greater than 60 % of the unit's health, then it would scale.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

and the damage is greater than 60 % of the unit's health, then it would scale

We can't use the Helth numbers It self to scale unfortunetly, as It would count as game mechanics

A bunch of TABS unities can be considered "Glass cannons" so who scales to their dura or AP would be case dependednt.

Troops that need at least 2 shoots by the lightining to die would scale by Dura.

Unities capable of one shooting the ones that can survive at least one lightining scale in dura.

the rest would still only scale to the wall bursting feat respectivaly

 

[Alexander]

We can't use the Helth numbers It self to scale unfortunetly, as It would count as game mechanics

A bunch of TABS unities can be considered "Glass cannons" so who scales to their dura or AP would be case dependednt.

Troops that need at least 2 shoots by the lightining to die would scale by Dura.

Unities capable of one shooting the ones that can survive at least one lightining scale in dura.

the rest would still only scale to the wall bursting feat respectivaly

ok

 

[KLOL506]

So a legacy unit called Thor can summon cloud-to-ground lightning. He scales to the units that can destroy the wall with one hit in this calc so everyone there bumps up to 8-C. This also includes dura upgrades to the projectile tanks like Cacti, Hay Balers, and Blunderbuss as they can tank hits from the Balista who is also capable of destroying the wall with one hit

CtG lightning is 9-A+ now, cloud-to-cloud lightning is 8-C.

Also for people to scale to this they'd need to be

1. In mid-air

2. Distance between the bolt and the source needs to be melee range (No point if the source is way high up in the clouds and the dude is thousands of meters down below)

3. Optional: Dude needs to have a battered and bruised body beforehand and bleeding all over, lowers electric resistance.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

CtG lightning is 9-A+ now, cloud-to-cloud lightning is 8-C.

Also for people to scale to this they'd need to be

1. In mid-air

2. Distance between the bolt and the source needs to be melee range (No point if the source is way high up in the clouds and the dude is thousands of meters down below)

3. Optional: Dude needs to have a battered and bruised body beforehand and bleeding all over, lowers electric resistance.

Don't think Thor lightining meet thouse conditions...

But how about the tempest Litch?

 

[KLOL506]

But how about the tempest Litch?

Depends on whether those are real storm clouds and whether the dude taking them jumped during the tanking.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Depends on whether those are real storm clouds and whether the dude taking them jumped during the tanking.

they didn't jumped, mostly trowed to the sky after beingh Hitted, trough the lightinings can kill the likes of Scarecrow that floats some cm's of the ground all the time.

nothing implies that he isn't summoning storm cloud, we really only have the atack animation and the fact It's called "Tempest Litch" as clues

 

[JustANormalLemon]

rough the lightinings can kill the likes of Scarecrow that floats some cm's of the ground all the time.

Tecnically Thors also can do that to all the flying unities as well, but I'm not sure the lightining is able to hit them directly instead of the ground and the explosion is the thing damaging them

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I'm going to make some tests to see how Thor lightining interacts with valkires and unities floating up by ballon archers

 

[KLOL506]

they didn't jumped, mostly trowed to the sky after beingh Hitted, trough the lightinings can kill the likes of Scarecrow that floats some cm's of the ground all the time.

Then they can't scale.

nothing implies that he isn't summoning storm cloud, we really only have the atack animation and the fact It's called "Tempest Litch" as clues

Fair point. But again, if the dude taking the lightning bolt doesn't jump, he doesn't scale. Electricity gets dissipated very quickly through the ground which is why most people survive it.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Then they can't scale.


Fair point. But again, if the dude taking the lightning bolt doesn't jump, he doesn't scale. Electricity gets dissipated very quickly through the ground which is why most people survive it.

As said, scare crows do not touch the ground and can take directly damage as well







Testing I saw that while Thor's can't hit directly Valkires, the unity that flies the highest in the game

Litches can (trough takes a while for a direct hit) one shooting tem, no contact to the ground and holding 2 big metal swords

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Valores stay around 2 to 3 wobblers of the ground, they have the same size as humans, should be enough to count as "not im the ground"

This also makes them stay with their heads almost scrappinf the lightning clouds, so should be also close enough in distance

3. Optional: Dude needs to have a battered and bruised body beforehand and bleeding all over, lowers electric resistance

Well, trough Wobblers do not show damaged skin:
1- Valkires hold a bunch of metal objects in their body

2- As show by Zeus projectiles, Wobblers are extremely condutive, a zeus lightining can make a chain reaction that can kill entire armies of Wobblers thanks to them conducting It to one another, trough may be a strech thanks to zeus atacks not showing "real lightning/energy atack propriets"

 

[KLOL506]

As said, scare crows do not touch the ground and can take directly damage as well

Then only they scale.

Testing I saw that while Thor's can't hit directly Valkires, the unity that flies the highest in the game

Litches can (trough takes a while for a direct hit) one shooting tem, no contact to the ground and holding 2 big metal swords

Metal swords here are irrelevant.

 

[KLOL506]

Valores stay around 2 to 3 wobblers of the ground, they have the same size as humans, should be enough to count as "not im the ground"

This also makes them stay with their heads almost scrappinf the lightning clouds, so should be also close enough in distance

Noted

Well, trough Wobblers do not show damaged skin:
1- Valkires hold a bunch of metal objects in their body

That's a completely different thing.

2- As show by Zeus projectiles, Wobblers are extremely condutive, a zeus lightining can make a chain reaction that can kill entire armies of Wobblers thanks to them conducting It to one another, trough may be a strech thanks to zeus atacks not showing "real lightning/energy atack propriets"

Sounds more so like a Wobbler weakness than anything meaningful for the lightning

 

[JustANormalLemon]

That's a completely different thing.


Sounds more so like a Wobbler weakness than anything meaningful for the lightning

Yes yes, I imagined It wouldn't add much

Noted

So? I can try make a video of It if would help

 

[Winter]

Noted


That's a completely different thing.


Sounds more so like a Wobbler weakness than anything meaningful for the lightning

Tbh the Zeus thing seems more of Zeus’ power rather than Wobbler conductivity