Tony has a few feats of a tier 1 scale, but his versatility in terms of reality-warping technology seems far too limited to rate higher than Extraordinary Genius.
Banner definitely doesn't have feats of the required scale and versatility as far as I am aware.
Yeah I think that's what Eternity's statement means, Hank has often shown far more reality warping feats and general creativity with the Pym particle and his intelligence, while Tony is generally the engineering / tech genius of Marvel
I don't think either of them should get a concrete Supergenius rating, but I think they can fall within the "At least Extraordinary Genius" showing they are above (baseline) EG but still shy of SG levels of intelligence
He has created multiple cosmic weapons, along with being slightly smarter than Pym
Regarded as the Fourth smartest person on the planet by Norman Osborn. Doctor Doom has stated that Banner is superior to him in some fields.
Looking like actual dodging. In the first panel, the shooter already fired the bullet before Elsa started dodgingIs Elsa Bloodstone actually dodging the bullets here or would it just be aim dodging?
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Probably not, but Confluctor deemed the previous scaling invalid because of Gladiator's power mechanism and Thor always holding back (or sth like that)Is it really accurate for Black Bolt’s voice to be so much weaker than Herald tier characters?
Black Bolt (Marvel Comics)
Black Bolt is the ruler of Attilan, and the king of Inhumans, a race offshoot to humans genetically engineered by the Kree for their on purposes, every member possessing immense power. His own signature ability is his ability to harness electrons and control them to his will, and his extremely...
From what I remember, he has affected heralds but it's almost more like he pushes them and breaks their armors (Besides the sound attacks are almost dura neg)Is it really accurate for Black Bolt’s voice to be so much weaker than Herald tier characters?
Black Bolt (Marvel Comics)
Black Bolt is the ruler of Attilan, and the king of Inhumans, a race offshoot to humans genetically engineered by the Kree for their on purposes, every member possessing immense power. His own signature ability is his ability to harness electrons and control them to his will, and his extremely...
We cannot use unproven rankings based on editor favouritism. We need to go by actual feats.
I think that the problem is that Black Bolt's peak exertion feats have been of nowhere near the scale of those of Thor, for example.Is it really accurate for Black Bolt’s voice to be so much weaker than Herald tier characters?
Black Bolt (Marvel Comics)
Black Bolt is the ruler of Attilan, and the king of Inhumans, a race offshoot to humans genetically engineered by the Kree for their on purposes, every member possessing immense power. His own signature ability is his ability to harness electrons and control them to his will, and his extremely...
I found a few of them from this respect thread
Thor holds back, I think in an old comic he once had a restriction that prevented him from fighting unless he asked his father for permission.
Holding back isn't a justification for a Varies rating.
Asides from holding back on Earth, not really.
Definitely seems like a power-scaler. Also:Did a powerscaler write up Silver Surfer's wiki page? Why is the information phrased like a VSBW page?
Talk about downplay lmao. The number 1 reason I dislike powerscaling Marvel Comics
We have to give them some leeway, as they are not remotely consistent at all, and all characters would scale to the maximum values of each other otherwise, which would turn into powerscaling hell.
He kinda has a point though...
If I remember correctly, the “at peak” rating is supposed to be the absolute maximum level of power they can output, and it’s not something they can normally do (remember, it was initially applied for Thor’s World Engine feat, since it pushed him to such an incredible level and nearly killed him)
His 3-C stat isn’t him holding back. Characters don’t get separate tiers for holding back.
Wasn't Efi planning on making Thor-tiers 5-B on Earth for holding back?
Well, he does say he forgets the full power/potential of mjolnir soo
That was at https://vsbattles.com/threads/marvel-comics-revisions-2022-12-07.145954/, which eventually got abandoned.
That used to be a thing, but it got removed because it’s really dumb to assume that every time Thor, Surfer, Hercules or anyone else holds back, they instantly snap to 5-B.
Cool, that doesn’t mean he gets a stat for when he’s holding back, it means nobody scales to that full potential unless they have a valid reason to do so.
MFTL+ , where do it come from and what value do they scale to?
