The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Eternity Transmutation

 

[HigashikataJobin]

Is somebody thinking about doing a profile for this guy here? I'm thinking of doing one myself.

 

[Antvasima]

The full context are in the sandbox. Mandragon, who was the Omniversal Majestror, erased Earth-238 and all of its inhabitants, but The Fury survived and latter The Fury evolved to be able to travel to another universes and came to Earth-616

Okay, but I still think that its displays of raw power and durability in conflict with other characters do not remotely seem to approach tier 1. It simply seems to have a very high resistance to reality warping and similar esoteric powers and events.

 

[Excellence616]

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Some Marvel Changes

Monica Rambeau CRT

 

[Antvasima]

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Some Marvel Changes

Monica Rambeau CRT

@ByAsura

 

[HigashikataJobin]

Just a doubt: now, the feat of creating a timeline within the Marvel multiverse is a Low 1-A feat right?

 

[TiltedFN]

Just a doubt: now, the feat of creating a timeline within the Marvel multiverse is a Low 1-A feat right?

I think, subspace is High 1-B, i dont know what else is in the timeline to be low 1-A

 

[TiltedFN]

Shouldn't like odin be low 1-A instead of high 1-B, if the timelines are low 1-A, and odin affected the entire multiverse and every plane of reality.

 

[Jason_Courne]

I've created a sandbox overhaul for Hank Pym's profile, aside from minor things it gives him 5-B size changing and technology, Supergenius intelligence, and possibly Relativistic+ reaction speeds

Thoughts?

 

[Gasper]

No, timelines are Low 2-C

 

[TiltedFN]

No, timelines are Low 2-C

Aren't the numbered earths considered timelines

 

[Excellence616]

Revising Storm Again

 

[Tomfer]

Moon Knight Intelligence Upgrade

 

[Antvasima]

I've created a sandbox overhaul for Hank Pym's profile, aside from minor things it gives him 5-B size changing and technology, Supergenius intelligence, and possibly Relativistic+ reaction speeds

Thoughts?

Your justifications for a straight Supergenius rating are not strong enough. "At least Extraordinary Genius" seems fine though.

 

[Gasper]

A few questions, from where does the following abilities on Thor's profile came from:
Invisibility, Intangibility, mind manipulation and time stop?

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

mind manipulation

That one looks a lot more like a Resistance

("Deliberately" failed to subdue Valkyrie while commanded to do so due to trying to resist his controller's will, but was still being manipulated[9])

time stop

Apparently, Mjolnir had time-energies, but Immortus took them away. Dunno where Time Stop comes from specifically

 

[Excellence616]

Moon Knight Intelligence Upgrade

 

[Gasper]

That one looks a lot more like a Resistance

Yeah it does.

Apparently, Mjolnir had time-energies, but Immortus took them away. Dunno where Time Stop comes from specifically

He probably should have time manipulation instead, he has shown to be able to travel back in time twice or trice.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

He probably should have time manipulation instead, he has shown to be able to travel back in time twice or trice.

Mjolnir itself already has Time Stop and Time Travel as former powers

 

[Jason_Courne]

Your justifications for a straight Supergenius rating are not strong enough. "At least Extraordinary Genius" seems fine though.

Alright I just put him back at his old rating of At least Extraordinary Genius, likely Supergenius until I find some more concrete feats

 

[Excellence616]

Alright I just put him back at his old rating of At least Extraordinary Genius, likely Supergenius until I find some more concrete feats

Wasn't his intelligence rated below Banner and Stark iirc. The whole statements about their intelligence was vague

 

[Jason_Courne]

Wasn't his intelligence rated below Banner and Stark iirc. The whole statements about their intelligence was vague

I think so? But at the same time, his profile states he rivals the intelligence of Reed Richards and was designated Scientist Supreme by Eternity

 

[Antvasima]

A few questions, from where does the following abilities on Thor's profile came from:
Invisibility, Intangibility, mind manipulation and time stop?

I do not recognise them for Thor, so without references and scans they can probably be removed.

 

[Antvasima]

Alright I just put him back at his old rating of At least Extraordinary Genius, likely Supergenius until I find some more concrete feats

That seems fine, yes.

 

[Gasper]

I do not recognise them for Thor, so without references and scans they can probably be removed.

Yeah, like Champion said mind manipulation looks more like a resistance than an ability and all the others need scans.
I don't even think i agree with time stop. Just time travel.

 

[Antvasima]

Wasn't his intelligence rated below Banner and Stark iirc. The whole statements about their intelligence was vague

I think so? But at the same time, his profile states he rivals the intelligence of Reed Richards and was designated Scientist Supreme by Eternity

Yes, but those "official" lists are as good as always written by Tom Brevoort, who has apparently usually strictly hastily gone by personal bias and vague memories when writing the Marvel handbook statistics, and if I remember correctly the official Marvel YouTube video for the strongest characters also listed The Thing as stronger than The Sentry and Moon Girl as smarter than Doctor Doom and Reed Richards, so it seems safer if we go by the scale of their feat instead.

Hank Pym was the scientist supreme according to Eternity and can grow himself to the same size, so he seems to have better reality-warping versatility than either Tony Stark or Bruce Banner.

 

[Antvasima]

I will check later.

 

[Antvasima]

Yeah, like Champion said mind manipulation looks more like a resistance than an ability and all the others need scans.
I don't even think i agree with time stop. Just time travel.

Yes, agreed.

 

[Excellence616]

Still don't know what ability this is
Gwenpool Strikes Back #4
Hulk punches Gwenpool into the Gutter space

 

[Tomfer]

Still don't know what ability this is
Gwenpool Strikes Back #4

Dimensional Manipulation?

 

[Excellence616]

Dimensional Manipulation?

Hulk punches Gwenpool into the Gutter space

 

[Tomfer]

Quick look at the Marvel Wiki said that the gutter space is just another dimension between comic panels, so I think its dimensional manipulation? Perhaps even BFR?

 

[Gasper]

Still don't know what ability this is
Gwenpool Strikes Back #4
Hulk punches Gwenpool into the Gutter space

BFR

 

[Jason_Courne]

Ok so I thought about rewording how we scale Hank's Scientist Supreme status

• Officially considered the Scientist Supreme by Eternity. While not as intelligent as Tony Stark or Reed Richards, he is the "mage of science," a man who pushes science to it's absolute limits, making the impossible possible, taking science to the point of magic.

 

[Excellence616]

Ok so I thought about rewording how we scale Hank's Scientist Supreme status

• Officially considered the Scientist Supreme by Eternity. While not as intelligent as Tony Stark or Reed Richards, he is the "mage of science," a man who pushes science to it's absolute limits, making the impossible possible, taking science to the point of magic.

Alright I just put him back at his old rating of At least Extraordinary Genius, likely Supergenius until I find some more concrete feats

It might affect Stark's profile as he is rated Extraordinary Genius

 

[Jason_Courne]

It might affect Stark's profile as he is rated Extraordinary Genius

Yeah he'd probably get bumped to a similar level of intelligence (iirc the gap between Tony and Hank is smaller than them and Reed)

 

[Excellence616]

Yeah he'd probably get bumped to a similar level of intelligence (iirc the gap between Tony and Hank is smaller than them and Reed)

and possibly Banner

 

[Jason_Courne]

and possibly Banner

Yeah, I think Bruce should also fall under a similar level, I just need to find some more feats for the both of them

 

[Antvasima]

Still don't know what ability this is
Gwenpool Strikes Back #4
Hulk punches Gwenpool into the Gutter space

It seems to be due to Gwenpool's own relation to gutter-space, not the Hulk's.

 

[Antvasima]

Ok so I thought about rewording how we scale Hank's Scientist Supreme status

• Officially considered the Scientist Supreme by Eternity. While not as intelligent as Tony Stark or Reed Richards, he is the "mage of science," a man who pushes science to it's absolute limits, making the impossible possible, taking science to the point of magic.

I personally think that Hank has a higher level of intelligence than Tony Stark, at least in terms of reality-warping versatility.