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Marvel Rivals Discussion Thread

Funny that random namor fish can cause tsunami's, Luna snow can stop the raging tides of those tsunami's with her ice, Storm controls the weather of Krakoa and stopped the timesteam storm affecting two islands, and can apparently flood the world.
Did Luna emote dance'd when she stop the tsunami tho? 👀
Nope, that was fan art. An extremely good one.
Oof
It's all Loki fault I swear
 
This feat may be interesting to calc (it comes from Thor lore Gone with the Thunder):
"He fell from the sky trailing fire, and his impact left a ring of scorched ground a thousand feet across."
I could do it
Well, I can handle the page if he's not interested anymore
I can't speak for him but i mean there's no harm in helping and doing more so go for it
 
btw for the storm being able to flood the earth here's what that would require
 
I guess her tier would be something like "High 8-C, up to High 6-A with Weather Manipulation"?

Also, about that Thor crater feat, any predictions? That's gotta be around 8-B or something
 
Wait, why?
cause thor tanks it and goes on to fight the Hulk, he's also swapping hands with Wolverine in the canon comic? Given the events of the game everyone is boxing each other and as far as we know this ain't like this feat is like from all out thor, its just him crashing into the desert and getting back up. its at worst just his casual durability
 
We can also throw that is implied that Thor and Loki fought in the trailer.
we know they outright fought its in their lore, the trailer, and the entangled moments. Loki and Hela teamed up on thor defeated him and thrust him into the future where he crashed into the ground doing said feat. So yeah Loki and Hela scale to him too
 
we know they outright fought its in their lore, the trailer, and the entangled moments.
The only physical confrontation between Thor and Loki (so far) was this:

The smirk was the opening Thor needed, the single moment of inattention that always got Loki in trouble. He seized Loki and dropped to the ground, smashing his brother into the stones of Asgard's palace plaza. He raised Mjölnir, but Loki stung Thor's hand with a short knife and twisted away.

Loki doesn't scale to Thor strength wise here, he just attacked him with a knife.
 
The only physical confrontation between Thor and Loki (so far) was this:

The smirk was the opening Thor needed, the single moment of inattention that always got Loki in trouble. He seized Loki and dropped to the ground, smashing his brother into the stones of Asgard's palace plaza. He raised Mjölnir, but Loki stung Thor's hand with a short knife and twisted away.
Loki doesn't scale to Thor strength wise here, he just attacked him with a knife
No it was not he was outright teamed by Hela and Loki with them winning the confrontation and that's how Thor was sent into the far furture upon defeat, I can show you on multiple files it says this
 
No it was not he was outright teamed by Hela and Loki with them winning the confrontation and that's how Thor was sent into the far furture upon defeat, I can show you on multiple files it says this
Loki and Hela defeated Thor by banishing him after his fight against Hela's armies.
 
Loki and Hela defeated Thor by banishing him after his fight against Hela's armies.
Valid but regardless he still confirmed fights Hulk and visually fight Wolverine in the comics and again his dura feat is casual. Even if you say Loki's weapons can harm thor he can still fight others with his shit and guys can harm thor so like 🤷‍♂️
 
Literally everyone can harm Thor in the gameplay, and the gameplay is more or less the main plot in action. Everyone is fighting everyone, therefore everyone is comparable (minus certain powers like Storm or Wanda)

This is just Thor surviving a crash, it's just plain durability, so it's fair game
 
Valid but regardless he still confirmed fights Hulk and visually fight Wolverine in the comics
Tbh it all depends on how Wolverine fought Hulk in the comic (because I haven't read it). If he harms Hulk with his claws it doesn't mean he physically scales with Hulk, it's just Wolverine's claws that scale with Hulk (or that Hulk is not immune to piercing damage).

Even if you say Loki's weapons can harm thor he can still fight others with his shit and guys can harm thor so like 🤷‍♂️
I don't agree with using game mechanics to physically scale everyone to Thor and Hulk. It's obvious that all players will be able to harm all other players, it has to be playable, but lorewise that doesn't mean that they all scale physically.
 
Tbh it all depends on how Wolverine fought Hulk in the comic (because I haven't read it). If he harms Hulk with his claws it doesn't mean he physically scales with Hulk, it's just Wolverine's claws that scale with Hulk (or that Hulk is not immune to piercing damage).
No Wolverine fought Thor in the comics, Thor fought Hulk in his lore. Both scale to him to some degree
I don't agree with using game mechanics to physically scale everyone to Thor and Hulk. It's obvious that all players will be able to harm all other players, it has to be playable, but lorewise that doesn't mean that they all scale physically.
I'm not scaling off of the game mechanics, guys who fight thor can be harmed by other people in lore so it kinda all just goes around, again this was a casual Thor durability feat after he was already somewhat exhausted. These dudes fought him when he was in a better state
 
Thor vs Wolverine


Thor agreeing with Jeff to get out of the way of Peni's bombs (she's with wolverine and attacking them) which means they would obviously damage him
 
Thor vs Wolverine


Thor agreeing with Jeff to get out of the way of Peni's bombs (she's with wolverine and attacking them) which means they would obviously damage him

Thor vs Wolverine was literally 2 panels in which Thor says he's going to smite him, readies his lightning and combines it with caps shield to incapacitated wolverine for the rest of the comic. We see no panels showing Wolverine landing a hit. Wolverine says he has been hit but this man regularly fights people far above his league because he has a healing factor to cover his ass, so I'm against scaling Wolverine to Thor as of right now. We have no clue what Thor was agreeing with Jeff on and it's only shown them dealing with peni's tentacles.
 
Thor vs Wolverine was literally 2 panels in which Thor says he's going to smite him, readies his lightning and combines it with caps shield to incapacitated wolverine for the rest of the comic.
2 completely seperate things, I will smite thee is Thor literally attack Wolverine slamming him into a car with wolverine tanking the blow. The next thing is the teamup of Thor and cap incaping him with the lightning based attack which still didn't like kill him it was basically just abusing the fact bro has no resistance to electricity which isn't an anti-feat.

We have no clue what Thor was agreeing with Jeff on and it's only shown them dealing with peni's tentacles.
they aren't shown dealing with her tentacles at all, venom amps her with the symbiote and she shoots out bombs at them then everyone on Thor and Jeff side is fleeing from the blast. they make it pretty blatant so no clue what you're on about
 
2 completely seperate things, I will smite thee is Thor literally attack Wolverine slamming him into a car with wolverine tanking the blow. The next thing is the teamup of Thor and cap incaping him with the lightning based attack which still didn't like kill him it was basically just abusing the fact bro has no resistance to electricity which isn't an anti-feat.
That is a fair point that Thor likely hit Logan into that car before beginning his smite attack so I guess that scaling is okay for right now but I still disagree with the notion that everyone should be relative due to gameplay. We should scale based on what's shown or stated in lore as we already have stuff that contradicts what the gameplay would lead us to believe, such as Jeff the shark being completely unable to damage peni, Iron fist getting destroyed by peni, and loki needing to team up with hela in order to banish Thor. We should play it safe for now and scale based on what the comics and game logs show or state about the characters.
they aren't shown dealing with her tentacles at all, venom amps her with the symbiote and she shoots out bombs at them then everyone on Thor and Jeff side is fleeing from the blast. they make it pretty blatant so no clue what you're on about
No bombs are shown in the panel with Thor, instead it's shows both cap and Jeff getting whacked by peni's tentacles. I dont how see how jeff or cap are fleeing by being upside down in midair, so it pretty clearly has something to do with the symbiote tentacle shown on panel. The intent was to show three different panels with heroes in different situations dealing with peni's attacks. Thor dealing with the tentacles, Iron fist dealing with peni up close (And failing), and spiderman dealing with the bombs. Evidently these bombs destroyed the supports collapsing the building they were in which trapped the whole team.
 
but I still disagree with the notion that everyone should be relative due to gameplay.
I mean I do to I've said it numerous times too so yeah just off gameplay is a no to me as well, I'm basing everything I said off cinematics, comic, and any lore readings

Jeff the shark being completely unable to damage peni, Iron fist getting destroyed by peni, and loki needing to team up with hela in order to banish Thor. We should play it safe for now and scale based on what the comics and game logs show or state about the characters
Again this is all nothing I disagree with, I've went out of my way numerous times to say go by lore, canon cinematics, and the comic. Hence me saying wolverine and hulk should scale to Thor.
 
So uh, bump. According to Voice from Beyond, the Narration states this:

And it always did, because this universe was an entangled battleground, and she the only one who could hold its fibers together.

Does this support her being Tier 2 ?
 
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