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Marvel Rivals Discussion Thread

Anarchy219 said:
I've started profiles on Psylocke, Squirrel Girl and Black Widow.
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Sounds good don't forget to read the lore or watch the rivals til the end and rise of doom trailers to see what other P&A or statements they have
 
FentyBeauty said:
can u link those with these blogs
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Scarlet Witch (Marvel Rivals)

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Adam Warlock (Marvel Rivals)

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Luna Snow (Marvel Rivals)

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Jeff the Land Shark (Marvel Rivals)

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Magneto (Marvel Rivals)

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Ya should remove all game mechanics stuff from the profiles such as the ingame speeds and anything saying the in game health and damage otherwise Wanda has more than enough now to lose the possibly and should be High 8-C+ up to low 2-C instead of possibly.

Good work though
 
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yeah really looking at every profile we have so far the big thing so far is just eliminating all information that comes from game mechanics so the in game projectile speeds and travel speeds should be done away with, characters shouldn't have superhuman stamina because they don't tire out in gameplay (that's not a proper justification since that's just a product of the game itself)

We shouldn't mention anything about the in game health or damage something has or takes away, that's including in P&A.

The range as well is pretty atrocious as well. Although for some people we clearly don't have anything better yet because we don't see anything for them in like any cinematics outside of gameplay so it is what it is there. Few examples the Spider-goons like all have tens of meters (on a much higher end) to hundreds of meters of range or else they aren't accomplishing some of those swings we're actually shown in the cinematics. Black Widow and Hawkeye Shoot at Cloak and Moon Knight when they're like 85m away in one shot with both of them counter firing so they're all at that higher end of being close to hundreds of m of range too but really for Bucky, Nat, Hawkeye, and Punisher anyways for all the standard guys (arrows in hawkeyes case) have no real reason to be assumed to have range far less than what their real life counterparts with much less advanced technology by 2099 standards can accomplish.

Same thing ofc with the projectile speeds in the cinematics they are just regular ass gun speed they aren't portrayed as super slow barely subsonic projectiles.


As for speed feats anyways this is what we have so far numbers wise going by my blog:
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Marvel Rivals Calc Compilation 2

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Calculation 1 - Magik Run's up a building at high speeds:
77.1742111m/s (Subsonic) Travel Speed

Calculation 2 - Iron Man Flight and Reaction Speed:
420.848638m/s or Mach 1.226964 (Supersonic) Magik is also able to perceive and react to this flight speed in the trailer and Iron Man is able to fully maneuver through Dracula's horde in this scene so it should scale to their reactions as well.

Calculation 3 - Hulk jumps High:
High-End
914.4m/s (Supersonic+)

Low-End
182.88m/s (Subsonic+)

Calculation 4 - Iron Fist Blocks Sentry Gun Bullets from point blank:
446.800235m/s (Supersonic)

Calculation 5 - Rocket Raccoon moves quick:
29.8740198m/s (Superhuman)

Calculation 6 - Rocket Raccoon Jetpack flight speed:
49.695282m/s (Subsonic) Penny's run speed scales obviously since she keeps up with this and the same goes for her own or any of the other spider-men's swinging.

Calculation 7 - Penny's Cyber-Web Cluster attack speed:
217.511424m/s (Subsonic+)

So we're looking at Superhuman~Supersonic+ travel speed taking everyone into account so far with Supersonic Combat speeds and Reactions
 
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I think they could scale to Hulk's speed, so Supersonic+/Subsonic+ seems good there

I can only assume combat and reaction speed is naturally above travel speed given you kinda need to know where you're going lol
 
ShockingPsychic said:
I think they could scale to Hulk's speed, so Supersonic+/Subsonic+ seems good there

I can only assume combat and reaction speed is naturally above travel speed given you kinda need to know where you're going lol
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yeah if the high-end is accepted then there is an argument for it scaling all around for combat speed and reactions since Hulk still does lunge and do his big jumps in here as well. Otherwise yeah in Iron Mans case we literally see that he can maneuver through dracula's horde while in the same feat he does the Mach 1.22 feat in with him and Magik both reacting to each other so that definitely at worst scales to reactions there.

No matter what we get though we're looking at Supersonic~Supersonic+ combat speeds and reactions
 
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Cap could scale to baseline subsonic travel since he does run fast enough to appear as a blur and have after images, Psylocke and Magik all are fast enough to wall run in cinematics (this is good for psylocke because Magik's stuff is subsonic so she should scale to her travel since they are running side by side vertically up a building)

Squirrel girl may legit have a Transonic projectile feat too...
 
I think they should all scale to each other speedwise, not counting any amps. While the gameplay is gameplay, we do know that these battles are taking place in the lore as well, so it shouldn't be a reach to say that they all keep up with each other, more or less. Hulk's feat is supported, so that works for me. Otherwise I do think Subsonic/Supersonic with higher Supersonic combat/reactions works

Ofc some characters get amps from certain powers though
 
Dalesean027 said:
Should it be Subsonic travel speed and Super+ combat? since outside of Hulk and Iron Man no one else has higher than Subsonic travel. I thought Super+ was because they can react to Hulks jumps
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Hulk's jumps should be travel speed, right?

I think we should find out which end will be accepted first. A lot depends on that
 
I don't entirely agree, but I can settle for that

So 49.695282m/s (Subsonic) travel speed (Scaling to Peni) with 446.800235m/s (Supersonic) or 914.4m/s (Supersonic+) reaction/combat speed (Scaling to Iron Fist or Hulk)?
 
Dalesean027 said:
Ya should remove all game mechanics stuff from the profiles such as the ingame speeds and anything saying the in game health and damage otherwise Wanda has more than enough now to lose the possibly and should be High 8-C+ up to low 2-C instead of possibly.

Good work though
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i got rid of the scans from the website and the stuff u said to remove from the profiles (probably some others i forgot to take out but ill do that later)

i didnt know what to put for the speed so i just used whatever u guys were talking abt in this thread

also had no idea what to put for the stamina so i left it as unknown
 
FentyBeauty said:
i got rid of the scans from the website and the stuff u said to remove from the profiles (probably some others i forgot to take out but ill do that later)

i didnt know what to put for the speed so i just used whatever u guys were talking abt in this thread
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Yup that works perfectly
 
FentyBeauty said:
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Luna Snow (Marvel Rivals)

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LMFAO HELLO!? what do you mean she held back a tsunami's tide with her powers I mean assuming she froze the first big way that's easy tier 7 which would fit with the Storm stuff although we can't say right now that she can exactly use her full potency of her weather manip in individual attacks but it is worth noting here that as of now these two do have tier 7 statements
 
Maverick_Zero_X said:
Off-topic: What's your character wishlist?

Imo:
  1. Ghost Rider
  2. Quicksilver (bro's last mainstream appearance was dying to bullets, he needs a comeback)
  3. Gwenpool
  4. Carnage
  5. Dazzler
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1. Shocker
2. Temper
3. Enchantress
4. Songbird
5. Dormammu

No order btw. Three of these actually have a chance imo (Enchantress, Shocker, and Dormammu but prob not Shocker lol).
 
Maverick_Zero_X said:
Off-topic: What's your character wishlist?

Imo:
  1. Ghost Rider
  2. Gwenpool
  3. Carnage
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Those three have the high shot to be in the game especially Gwenpool since Jeff is already in the game
Now for me beside those three above that I'm in the same sentiment, it's:
  • Green Goblin
  • Spider-Gwen
  • Dormamu
  • Gambit
  • Shang-Chi
ShockingPsychic said:
Not counting the leaked ones

1. Cyclops
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Isn't Cyclops got leaked as well alongside Reed kekw
 
I almost have every single entangled moment from this season, within the next few days I should have them all and be able to have all the lore as of this season
 
ShockingPsychic said:
Just heard an exchange between Namor and Storm where Namor claims that Storm can flood the earth
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I'm telling you these dudes are way higher than just High 8-C and 8-B.

Storm also held back the time-space storm that was merging Krakoa and Arakko across worlds with it being said that "space-time itself rippled around her body, creating glimpses of a million different Ororo Monroe's from a million different realities, but none of them could disturb or displace her. She found herself in control, and she began to quiet the storm."

Storm of course doesn't scale to the Timestream Entanglement or the full yield of the storm it caused but she does still manage to calm it cause it to disperse. They also says "It had been more powerful than anything she ever felt, maybe even more powerful than her brief contact with the phoenix force."

Both of these are islands sized bodies they say so this should very realistically be another tier High tier 7 to 6 for her that could support her being able to flood the earth.

Funny that random namor fish can cause tsunami's, Luna snow can stop the raging tides of those tsunami's with her ice, Storm controls the weather of Krakoa and stopped the timesteam storm affecting two islands, and can apparently flood the world.


slightly off topic but this also helps no so we're not just gonna be baseline 2-B off the countless realities statement since this one says a million realities so that's the best number we have so far until maybe one says there are infinite realities or something
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Also, wouldn't Spider-Zero be Low 2-C with the Web of Life
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there is precedent for it yes but we'd need to get ALL the lore in order to have a consistent idea.
ShockingPsychic said:
What's an entangled moment?
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Those are the the canon story moments filled with lore and comic images you unlock by completing the seasonal missions.

One talks about what's going on in Asguard, the other follows after Spider-Man's lore where he's actually with the web-warriors in that dimension, the other is about Black Panther and Bast (who as we see in the comic panel is actually possessed by Knull), then there's two more but I haven't locked those yet
 
Tomfer said:
Just you wait, we will be getting an excuse to scale those feats to physicals soon, I can feel it.
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We shall see but at least right now that flood he world stuff is a Class Z statement for storm and easily a high tier 6 feat not to mention all her other feats of moving large masses of storm clouds or other weather related shit she's got some good stuff going for her. Depending on if we get any say Magneto or Scarlet Witch stated being a more powerful mutant than her than her own capacity then I'd imagine they should as well be tier 6 normally too upscaling
 
Wanda has one line, "When I said, "No more mutants", I was talking about you, Logan." which has some implications

She also says "No more Spiders" after killing Peter or Peni which is just mean given the reference lol
 
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