The Queenslayer vs Raiden (Metal Gear Rising)

[DarkGrath]

Late-Game Queenslayer vs MGRR Raide (Both Low 7-C)

Speed Equalised

Neither have prior knowledge of eachother

Takes place in a large, open field, several kilometres in length

Combatants start 20 metres away from eachother

A Mistle is positioned just outside of the battlefield (making Queenslayer's resurrection combat-applicable)

Queenslayer has access to their full arsenal

Ripper Mode is Restricted

Otherwise, SBA

Who will win?

An Anime Amnesiac, because that's so original: 2 (AogiriKira, XSOULOFCINDERX)

Edgy Samurai Boi:

They go out for drinks and find a common interest in slashing people up:

 

[DarkGrath]

Lemme get a... Bump

 

[SpookyShadow]

>Immortality type 4 and 8

How is Jack supposed to win against him

 

[DarkGrath]

Read the weaknesses. The immortality works through the BOR parasite, which will cause them to "disperse" on death and proceed to revive soon after. If Raiden managed to destroy/very severely damage their heart, however, it would kill them for good. And it's not exactly out-of-character for Raiden to attack the heart first. They'd just need to very seriously damage it within a very short span of time.

 

[DarkGrath]

Bump!

 

[ShivaShakti]

I don't think Jack has much of a Win Con. He doesn't have away around Queenslayer's regen and immortality, plus QS is far more haxxed.

Gonna vote Queenslayer

 

[DarkGrath]

I'll count your vote for the whole haxxing thing, but again I should note that it's not out of character for Jack to rip out an opponent's heart, which should bypass immortality and kill them if he get's the chance to do so.

Still, counting your vote.

 

[ShivaShakti]

Thats a post Updated body thing tho since he needs the electrolytes I thought?

 

[DarkGrath]

Couldn't he do it before the updated body in the first mission? Or am I remembering incorrectly?

 

[ShivaShakti]

I remember it being a post mission 1 thingy. You're probably misremembering it because of Blade Mode being available.

 

[DarkGrath]

Yeah, maybe. Would it be more fair if I changed it to Raiden's post-mission 1 key.

 

[ShivaShakti]

His Low 7-C key which is a tier above QS? >.>

 

[DarkGrath]

Queenslayer also has a Low 7-C key, though Ripper mode makes it a bit more complicated. Can ripper mode be restricted for matches? Even if not, it might still be a workable match.

Wait, hold up. Just checked that tier, actually. It uses Kinetic Energy, so it's outdated and would need to be removed or at least revised.

 

[SpookyShadow]

It can, it bumps you to another tier

 

[DarkGrath]

It can, it bumps you to another tier

Gotcha. I'll change it so they are both Low 7-C.

EDIT: All done. For clarity on AP difference now, Queenslayer has an advantage.

Queenslayer: Notably stronger than a very casual 2.7 kiloton feat

Raiden: Significantly stronger than a 1.15 kiloton feat

 

[SpookyShadow]

Idk if AP matters, Raiden has HF Blades that ignore dura

 

[DarkGrath]

I know, I was just pointing it out so that the change is clearer.

 

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[XSOULOFCINDERX]

If Raiden doesn't go for the heart, he's gonna eventually have his fighting style figured out and he's gonna be put down.

 

[SpookyShadow]

His style of fighting is to slash his opponent to hundreds of pieces, and he crushed Armstrong's heart. So he goes for the heart.

 

[ShivaShakti]

His style of fighting is to slash his opponent to hundreds of pieces, and he crushed Armstrong's heart. So he goes for the heart.

The heart thing is situational.Raiden only crushed Armstrong's heart because it was the source of his Nano machines, and also the fact the vains on his body that were hardening all linked back to his heart which acted as a visual hint.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Isn't heart going to be destroyed when you get slashed to pieces with Blade Mode slices?

 

[ShivaShakti]

Isn't heart going to be destroyed when you get slashed to pieces with Blade Mode slices?

Would he use that immediately? Keep in mind Ripper and Blade mode have limited usage. I don't think he would immediately go for it, as the fights usually depicts him fighting for a good while before using it to target a body part or something like that.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Ripper Mode is restricted here, but Jack does use Blade Mode when opponent is off guard or something. Can HF Blade cut through Queenslayer's weapon?

 

[ShivaShakti]

Ripper Mode is restricted here, but Jack does use Blade Mode when opponent is off guard or something. Can HF Blade cut through Queenslayer's weapon?

Possibly. I don't think Queenslayer has resistance to the HF blade's durability negging. However QS is capable of switching weapons on the fly should that happen.

 

[ShivaShakti]

Also going to point out, merely stabbing or exploding QS's heart is gonna kill him for good. Jack was seen shooting exploding it in the game cutscene yet QS managed to survive and resurrect. The heart would likely needto be completely annihilated.

 

[DarkGrath]

Yeah, Kira is correct about the heart destruction thing.

In game, the character Jack is shown using what's called an Ichor Shot directly through the Queenslayer's heart in an attempt to kill them. It's kind of hard to explain exactly what the injury would be like, but considering that it went all the way through without any sign of fragmentation it would have left a giant, gaping hole in the center of their chest, which the Queenslayer survived.

 

[DarkGrath]

Bump!

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I think QS's Hax are gonna let him survive long enough to get the win.

 

[DarkGrath]

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