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The Logia elemental intangibility is passive.I have never heard you can power nulling high-mid Regen (in their logia form) via Power nullification. Since it's not treated as a "power" it's treated as a defense mechanism
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The Pheasant and The Cow - Aokiji vs Daewi Han
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Is it via contact?
If it's via contact, it's not happening
If it's via contact, it's not happening
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Its not Passive
Logias literally need to train so they can go into Logia forms on pure reflex
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It is passive
Sabo couldn't get touched in the same hour that he ate his devil fruit.
Sabo couldn't get touched in the same hour that he ate his devil fruit.
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How does that make it passive
also Sabo was instantly able to use his fruit to a fairly high degree of skill
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They don't. It's nowhere states that Logia users need to train in order to activate their elemental intangibility. It's always consistently and constantly shown to be passive and instantaneous, why would Luffy literally be forced to learn Haki if that were the case, considering Luffy's fighting style is practically unpredictable that contains a lot of element of surprise?
Sabo, Caribou and many many Logias debunked your theory.
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Actually it is not passive, if it was passive then non haki users will not be able to touch logias at all, even a hug or hand shake e.t.c. and that is not the case in one piece. Passive would mean regardless it activates and it is always on
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Please define what Haki is, apparently you know what it is?
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Already responded to Sabo
So I guess Sabo is constantly lighting wooden ships on fire since it is passive
also no it is not a theory that is how it works
Its annoying to find the scans but even the wiki agrees with me lol
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Passive when it comes to attacks, yes it is. A Logia user's body will always turn to their elemental form if they are attacked.
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We are specifically talking about their Logia intangibility aka Defense mechanism which is passive. Whenever a Logia user gets attacked, they automatically turn into their respective element or subject it's not a Reaction Speed, considering that the user themselves are often unaware they were attacked in the first place
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Attacked in what manner Luffy charging into Smoker and Ace could be qualified as an attack yet they didn't auto change what quallifies as an attack and what doesn't
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Why would a huge or a handshake trigger their defense mechanism? Your comparisons and examples literally doesn't make any sense
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You forgot that Enel was asleep and he couldn't get hit?
That literal gag scene is
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Allow me to ask you a question what does "Attack" entail? Obviously "Harming" the User which includes eating them, punching, kicking, etc etc.
Offensive Attacks in general will always trigger their defense mechanism, because they are meant to harm the user.
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When do you see logias hug or handshake?
PrinceofPein
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Yeah you are going to need a scan that says what you are claiming, besides Monet was attacked without haki if it passively activates that will not happen
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What Ace and Luffy?
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Who attacked her without Haki?
You mean her heart which was disconnected from her body?
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You mean the anime only bs that wasn't in the manga at all?
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scans of this
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That's not how the burden of proof works, you are the one who needs to prove they are not, and allow me to remind you that you still haven't presented any proof of your claim nor manga examples
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that doesn't prove it being passive at all.
I don't recall him being asleep at that time
So Dismissing stuff tha goes against you as a gag scene as well
So is Akainu constantly vaping the Metal nearby him I guess since it is passive
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Zoro attacked her without haki
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You are saying it passive
Burden of proof falls on you
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Pain, care to enlighten me how a huge or handshake triggers their logia intangibility?
PrinceofPein
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So you are telling me ace burns anything he touches??
Nice
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She wasn't hurt by the attack. She was literally paralyzed......
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I will reply you when you bring proof of their intagibility being passives,
PrinceofPein
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It does not matter if she was paralyzed, it is a ******* attack if it was passive the intagibility would have happened, so yes the intagibility is not passive
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Elemental intangibility = / = intangibility. Two entirely different things, you are still able to touch a Logia in their logia form without Haki. However, they don't take Damage. You of all people should know, since you claims to have read One piece
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You mean the second time when she wasn't wounded at all?
Who said it does?
You said he was skilled, I sent otherwise
He flat out said he fell asleep.
How is this not a gag scene?
Did I say his magma is active all the time?
I said his intan is passive.
If someone touches him, he turns to magma.
It doesn't mean that the magma affects happen 24/7
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Stop strawmanning.
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We are specifically talking about their Logia intangibility aka Defense mechanism being passive, so where is your proof of their logia intangibility being not passive?
Even this website accepted their Elemental intangibility as passive, you want me to prove something that has already been accepted long time ago. I honestly don't know why are arguing in the first. You may be able to touch a Logia user in their logia form - Elemental intangibility. However, you cannot hurt them without Haki, Sea stone or you have Elemental Advantage against said user - Elemental intangibility (AGAIN). They only have their Regen in their logia form, therefore it's treated as passive
Even this website accepted their Elemental intangibility as passive, you want me to prove something that has already been accepted long time ago. I honestly don't know why are arguing in the first. You may be able to touch a Logia user in their logia form - Elemental intangibility. However, you cannot hurt them without Haki, Sea stone or you have Elemental Advantage against said user - Elemental intangibility (AGAIN). They only have their Regen in their logia form, therefore it's treated as passive
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I am saying that unless it was stated or actively shown that it is passive it is not cause passive means regardless their intagibility happens, that will mean for kizaru he passes though anything, akainu melts antthing he touches or stands on or his clothes even (Mirio Bnh), Passives gives infintie speed to their reaction which they will be blatnatly wrong. and for the last time nothing says it is passive.
Hwy her intagibility did not activate tho, that is the argument
Nah he was simply flexing and obviously is not actually asleepHe flat out said he fell asleep.
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I am not, that is what passive means tho, passives mean he does not control when it activates or not and it happens regardless of his reactions or will, and we have them throughout the series deactivating their logia form, Kizaru did that against ray cause you know rayleigh could hit his logia form and other cases
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Attacks/Offensive abilities > triggers their logia intangibility.
Normal handshake, huge, ordinary things not meant to hurt the user > Normal Humans.
Allow me to clarify: LOGIA USERS can interact with other people normally like normal humans. However if they get attacked they automatically transforms into their Logia without the user even noticing he/she was attacked. You could literally sleep and someone tries to stab you, but your defense mechanism protects! You wakes up and sees "Oh, someone tried to kill me. Thank you Mera Mera no mi!"
Normal handshake, huge, ordinary things not meant to hurt the user > Normal Humans.
Allow me to clarify: LOGIA USERS can interact with other people normally like normal humans. However if they get attacked they automatically transforms into their Logia without the user even noticing he/she was attacked. You could literally sleep and someone tries to stab you, but your defense mechanism protects! You wakes up and sees "Oh, someone tried to kill me. Thank you Mera Mera no mi!"
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Nobody is saying HE IS ALWAYS ICE in the sense unintentionally freezing people. But only IF he gets attacked. Quit strawmaning, Pain. Seriously!
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