The most hax DB character fights Zen'o's first loss

[Bluetrekking]

Uxie no sells regardless. You need feats of time hax working on an immeasurable speed being.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Surviving a universal reset does not make you resistant to Time hax.

 

[Kepekley23]

Well, Immeasurable DBX and DBH is still being discussed. Perhaps we will have the feats soon.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Uxie no sells regardless. You need feats of time hax working on an immeasurable speed being.

And Infinite Speed being.

 

[Bluetrekking]

@Kep, that is true. Most are neutral including Azzy so I don't know what will happen.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

There is a speed discussion?

 

[Bluetrekking]

Uh, yeah.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Surviving a universal reset does not make you resistant to Time hax.

When its reset via a time hax distortion it should.

And the LT can counter Dialgas power anywho.

 

[Bluetrekking]

Basically Demigra existing in the CoT (a place without Time) for 75 million years and more stuff.

 

[NeoZex6399]

Dialga time manipulation works with Giratina, which is also immeasurable in speed and lacks the concept of time and space.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

@Kukui You're forgetting the obvious being Immeasurable bit.

 

[Kyle_Ramos]

Fw fra

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Ik being immeasurable is enough, just adding more fuel to the fire. But fair.

Anyway im gonna go with Uxie FRA

 

[Therefir]

So FW resist Uxie's mind brainwash yes or no?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Apparently not, with Ever's revelation.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Wait, how long the analysis take ?

 

[Bluetrekking]

@J-Man, pretty fast..

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Lead then find out the mind manipulation then IT away fast?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Pretty sure we agreed that it doesn't tell him what the move does.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

But litterally yesterday the opposite was said ?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Has it ever showed what the move does or does it just tell you that "Uxie has an attack called Psychic" or from a recent match "Gallantmon has a move called Quo Vadis"?

 

[Seventy96]

Uxie FRA.

 

[AnonymouXOtakuX]

Hey i have a question (I know this is off topic) Since matches that have been banned were allowed, when it comes to future warrior and non-canon characters, like Vs seiya, when DB Vs SS is banned and FW vs galactus when DB Vs Marvel is banned, does that mean we can put him in other matches that are normally banned? Like other DB vs Marvel and DC matches. An example would be FW vs Pre Crisis Superman or FW vs Rune King Thor

 

[LordGinSama]

FW for the reasons above.

 

[Akreious]

Votes:

Uxie: DodoNova2 , Celestial Pegasus , ProfessorKukui4Life , Seventy96 (4)

FW2: Gargoyle One , Therefir , SSJRyu1 , Theglassman12 , AnonymouXOtakuX , Bluetrekking , Zenkaibattery1 , Kepekley23 , Kyle Ramos , Knightofannihilation666, Me, Sidali891 (11)

I might have miscounted some votes but that's a fairly hefty gap in votes, with 6 in favour of FW.

Edit: lol forgot me, 7 in favour of FW2

 

[Sidali891]

Count my vote too, Akreious. From what I understood so far in this thread, Uxie's only way of winning is through his Memory Manipulation, which FW arguably has resistance against, while the latter has numerous ways of dealing with the former, besides his Mid-Godly Regenration. I vote for FW, unless someone can convince me otherwise (if the outcome isn't decided yet, of course).

 

[Akreious]

Updated

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

If he doesn't have resistance to Uxies level of memory manip, info manip, etc then the reasons for FW are kinda flawed.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

And here goes the argument over if the votes are valid.....DB vs Pokemon everyone....

 

[Akreious]

Don't forget that FW2 has many ways to off Uxie as well. He has his own Information Analysis that even if it just gives the names of Uxie's moves and abilities, I think "Memory Manipulation" is pretty clear.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Of course Dragon OvO

But again, it solely depends on if FW's resistance is good enough to go against Uxies. If it is, he'd win. If not, well yeah.

Besides, no matter who wins this can't be added since the LT are kinda being upgraded to 2-B so this would be a stomp.

Btw, don't quote me but Cal mightve voted for Uxie (?).

Edit: NVM on the last part ovo

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

I'm sure this was addressed in previous FW threads but just because he hass precog doesn't mean he automatically gets through everything.

Besides, FW wouldn't find out about Uxies memory manip like that since it isn't a move, and even with precog all he'd see is Uxie opening his eyes. It doesn't use a specific technique, besides literally looking at him.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Cal can't vote. It's his thread. ovo

 

[Akreious]

Gimme a moment, I'll use my Cntrl+F powers to check

 

[Bluetrekking]

@Kukui, if the LT are upgraded to 2-B, we could just use 2-B FW I guess.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

If that happens wouldn't it be kinda stompish depending on the AP diff?

And I think Uxies memory and info hax would be even more higher level but I could be wrong.

 

[Bluetrekking]

FW's AP is pretty high up there. He scales from a guy who affected countless timelines. But he would possibly be outhaxed.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

And IIRC, the same thing applies to Pokemon as well. It already has a pretty huge number of universes on its own, and then there's the statement regarding the universes for Ultra Wormholes, there being a countless number of them.

But eh, I won't go too deep into this until the Upgrade actually happens.

 

[Akreious]

As we wait for further input from the people that voted, on a separate note what do you guys think about the "Link Cable" theory?

 

[DodoNova2]

I wonder, maybe a new thread on this match is possible, since 3/4 of the people who voted had their votes clear