The most controversial debate is up here again... Goku vs. Supes.

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

@Oblivion
Is the heat vision an AoE?

Yes, it can be used that way

 

[Spinoirr]

I think it all depends on his line of sight

 

[PaChi2]

"Ki blasts are planet sized"

Hold on there, bud.

 

[Iisdude1]

Does it happen instantly or can he keep attacking with that range, goku won't just stand there and take it if he can dodge.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Remember the Final Flash lol? Remember Frieza's supernova? Ki attacks can grow in size and range if a character wills it. And in character I don't see superman destroying the planet with his heat vision anyway lol

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I think it all depends on his line of sight

He can fly to space and line of sight entire planets and fire from there. He literally did that in the comics

 

[PhantomØ4]

Yea. He ain't dodging Superman's lasers. Teleport to avoid them is more possible. But I don't recall him using teleport dodging a lot of at all

I doubt that if he sees a planet engulfing attack he'll try to evade it via physical means if he tries to evade it when he has much easier ways to evade em.

 

[Buttersamuri]

"Ki blasts are planet sized"

Hold on there, bud.

That was an error. I meant to put Aren't planet sized

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

You Guys really think Goku will just stand there and take it? At worst case he can teleport away.

 

[Omegas03]

I am sure Superman leads with Heat vision, Buuuut does he really used an Planet ranged AoE one often? I doubt he'll use it right away until like, half through the battle.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

His heat visions is also extremely accurate and calculated when he doesnt use as AoE

 

[Omegas03]

Well that's fair but Goku has experience with energy attacks so dodging is still an option.

Btw, If this turns out to be an stomp for either party I can change the conditions if necessary.

 

[Iisdude1]

Goku can instant transmission to keep his distance

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Btw Goku's Analytical prediction shouldn't be underestimated as he can predict Hit's time-skip in base.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Not to mention, he can also match freezing at absolute zero levels , which goku doesnt resists

And can also snipe Goku from afar, like from space, where Goku cant reach him

 

[TheQuirkyBoy]

Supes FRA

 

[Buttersamuri]

Imma back up supes FRA

 

[Spinoirr]

The man in blue and red fra

 

[Omegas03]

Damn son Supes is getting a W soon.

 

[Buttersamuri]

this debate really gonna end that fast. That's a major oof

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

We need more DB supporters lol

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Supes FRA

We ended the controversy in less than 2 hours, what an achievement!

 

[Omegas03]

Yeh and tbh I think Goku has far more chance than people are claiming. AP wise he can just easily overpower Supes and idk if Goku is falling that fast against Heat Vision.

 

[Spinoirr]

I am a dragon ball supporter lol

I have all the manga volumes

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

He can teleport to a different dimension if need be lol. Supes ain't catching him with that.

 

[The_Calaca]

Heat is AP. Sups' Heat Vision isn't special unless it has hax.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I am a dragon ball supporter lol

I have all the manga volumes

Didn't say you're not. I Said we could use "more" lol

 

[Iisdude1]

It's not like he knows goku can't breathe in space, and will he actually stay off flying into space and sniping goku at the start where goku could likely just manhandle him with ap?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

He can teleport to a different dimension if need be lol. Supes ain't catching him with that.

That would be Self-BFR if he doesnt come back to the field

And Supes has planetary range. Goku isnt safe in any place on Earth

 

[Omegas03]

@Calaca

Wait are you for serious? Lemme discount all the votes then /s

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

That would be Self-BFR if he doesnt come back to the field

And Supes has planetary range. Goku isnt safe in any place on Earth

Goku can also easily BFR supes btw

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

It's not like he knows goku can't breathe in space, and will he actually stay off flying into space and sniping goku at the start where goku could likely manhandle him?

He wont manhandle him immediately since Supes also has decent knowledge in martial arts and can even use pressure points

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Heat is AP. Sups' Heat Vision isn't special unless it has hax.

His heat visions can dura neg. Thats literally in the profile

 

[Omegas03]

tbf @Uchiha Goku doesn't BFR IC so I doubt it's a valid reason for Goku.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

And again Ki blasts are also Solar system in range lol. Even Saiyan saga piccolo's attack can easily reach the moon

 

[Iisdude1]

I don't think goku could see that far, he might be able to teack his energy though. And if he goes into another dimension he can teleport right back.

 

[Buttersamuri]

BFR sounds like that's not really what Goku would resort to very fast at all. He likes his battles, and I would think only would hope on that in the worst situation

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I am an DB supporter, but tbf @Uchiha Goku doesn't BFR IC.

Ik, but I'm sure Supes wouldn't destroy the planet with heat vision in character as well lol

 

[Omegas03]

Also @Calaca made a point that debunks all the votes in Supes favor lol. back to zero

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I mean, thats just one of the wincons that Supes has