The MCU changes. Edit: Looks like we need to finalize some stuff and we need to do more work on the calcs

[HulkSmash912]

Allright how do you want to calc vibranuim then? How do we compare its alloyed form to its non alloyed form. how much kinetic energy can it take? We have no idea. Its good feat but as I understand it not a qauntifiable feat,
whats the timestamp for the earth quake feat.

i don't know much for both feats. but we take low ends of vibranium for the alloy IMO. it seems fair and the earthquake I don't think anything less than 7.0 magnitude earthquake would knock people down, though that's only the core. The entire city would feel it like 3.0 - 4.0 magnitude.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

What? No tell me when in the video the earth quake takes place, if it's the one Im thinking of youll be lucky to get town level for it. (Actually if Its the one Im thinking of it very well might not fit the range for earthquake calcs.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Um no, knocking people down is very minor for an earthquake. It is knocking buildings down that are high into the richer scale

 

[InfiniteSped]

Can't use Earthquake calcs on such a small distance.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Distance is to small to be an earth quake... Vibranuim isn't qauntifiable it's a plot device that does what ever the heck the writers want, also what scene does hulk dent virbranuim.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

It was in A TV Show

 

[HulkSmash912]

What? No tell me when in the video the earth quake takes place, if it's the one Im thinking of youll be lucky to get town level for it. (Actually if Its the one Im thinking of it very well might not fit the range for earthquake calcs.

The one at start of the scene, how we can call it? It's a small earthquake and shockwave and a pretty good feat. Some people claim it's 700k tons because it moved. A building , what do you think? About vibranium let's use the low end kinetic durability.

 

[HulkSmash912]

Um no, knocking people down is very minor for an earthquake. It is knocking buildings down that are high into the richer scale

I know but it's still haven't been calced yet.

two users named Erkan12 and The_Hajduk have pointed this out in comic vine.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

We have different standards then comic vine and that earth quake seems to small to fit our definition for earth qauke feats. The area affected isn't nearly large enough.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

You are new here it seems. This place doesn't take other sites for evidence

It seems like a supporting feat and nothing more, so it doesn;t seem to be calced

 

[Revan_Laha]

We have Surtur tanking this massive explosion

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11135/111350946/6468763-0496223408-64443.gif

 

[Revan_Laha]

Missing Tier 6 MCU. What a legend. RIP

 

[Revan_Laha]

Hey? What about Hulk causing an earthquake here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3MTuLd4U2o

Surtur's Dragon was also stated to be powerful enough to cause earthquakes

 

[DragonEmperor23]

iirc earthquake calcs got weaker because of a revision or something

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Hey? What about Hulk causing an earthquake here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3MTuLd4U2o

Surtur's Dragon was also stated to be powerful enough to cause earthquakes

As I and many others mentioned the area effected isn't enough to be considered a real earthqauke (Even if it was large enough it knocks down a few people doubt your getting past 7c with that feat). A statement about earthquakes is worthless without any idea of how large/devestating they are, Sutur dies to that explosion....

 

[InfiniteSped]

Surtur does survive the first part of the explosion, the one that destroys the mountains. That could be calced, I guess

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Fair,

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Spinosaurus did his calc of thor lifting the star here and it got accepted by a calc member to be valid.

Back to Low 6-B mcu we go....

 

[Revan_Laha]

Link?

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Here gives you the link to the calc

 

[Newendigo]

It's this going to go eternally?

Where we draw the line between Indexing Stats and Humanity?

┬┐Did we created those threads out our human anxiety or our human anxiety was manifested out of those threads?

The struggles of modern MEN and TECHNOLOGY.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

We got a calc member to accept the calc, Shouldn't that signal the calc is valid??

I don't know, I just want to finish these revisions, we are just going back to the drawing board every time and reaching the same conclusion here

 

[Revan_Laha]

Here gives you the link to the calc

WHERE IS IT?! (In Christian Bale's cancerous Batman voice)

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Sigh... https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan/Thor_moves_Nidavellir's_ring

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Okay now, since we got a calc member to accept the calcs. We now get High 7-C for sokovia, and Low 6-B+ for the IW people

 

[RanaProGamer]

So only 7-A characters get a downgrade.

 

[Hellbeast1]

Where's the High 7-C calc again? Also have we called that ice feat Thor has?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I think we need to make a calc group thread about the meteor feat and the teserract feat.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

From DontTalkDT regarding the Tesseract feat:

"I think the calc is probably fine on paper, unless special measures were taken to prevent the cube from cooling (which are for example the reason why nuclear fusion reactors can be extremly hot without gigantic amounts of energy being involved.)"

 

[InfiniteSped]

Didn't they say that Thor's scientist friend found a way to use the Tesseract without having to heat it that much?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Yeah pretty sure the tesseract can be interacted with and possibly even destroyed with means other then heating it, which would throw thanos feat of shattering it into question...And the metorite feat involves variable speed and the impacts are far smaller then those you would find in 6c impacts.

 

[InfiniteSped]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/483051664840851477/651772147504644097/unknown.png

Seems like they didn't have to actually heat it to open the portals. Does the calc rely on the Tesseract being able to tank the 120 million kelvin?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

To my understanding the calc is entirely reliant on the tesseracts ability to tank 120 million k. Its assumed thanos had to output the same amount of energy to destroy it.

 

[InfiniteSped]

Banner said that'd be the temperature needed to break the Coulomb Barrier, which seems to be something that stops a body from undergoing a nuclear reaction. But apparently Selvig was able to find a way to not need to do that, so I'm not sure if the cube was ever exposed to all that heat.

 

[Revan_Laha]

I just want mommy Hela to be Tier 6

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

I just want mommy Hela to be Tier 6

@revan Im pretty sure she's not going to be regardless of the ongoing tier 6 discussion, sutur dies to a tier 6 explosion and is normally well below that ap, and shes below sutur. More she doesn't even live long enough to die to the explosion..I think she might be 7b?

@sped Pretty sure it's never exposed to that heat, they just use it in a different manner, further it's a single therotical statement that we never see put into practice...

 

[Revan_Laha]

@revan Im pretty sure she's not going to be regardless of the ongoing tier 6 discussion, sutur dies to a tier 6 explosion and is normally well below that ap, and shes below sutur. More she doesn't even live long enough to die to the explosion..I think she might be 7b?

@sped Pretty sure it's never exposed to that heat, they just use it in a different manner, further it's a single therotical statement that we never see put into practice...

What about that Low 6-B calc Spino did about moving rings of Nidavellir?

 

[Revan_Laha]

That calc got approved too and it is a pretty clear feat with just pixel scaling and not much assumptions

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Well for one unless we assume thor and hulk are above sutur it's a massive outlier as a 6c explosion was enough to kill him, someone hulk couldn't even really harm beyond jumping on his face. (I also still argue about wether it should even be ap applicable, all thor did was break some ice and the rings move on their own from their, to me it should just be a lifting strength feat) Theres no way we can scale the main cast that high that early without some major contradictions.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

1 feat vs 1 feat