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They need to null/reflect/eat 6-D space-time manip as well, which is why its up in the air, I don't know if it can be countered
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The King’s Last Jester - Joker vs Gilgamesh
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random fodder demons have space time manip, and joker scales above demons who scale above those demons to an infinite degree. demons are = personae so joker should have the ability to resist that.
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Once again, in RE/AD.
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He resists Resistance Neg.
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authority can resist resistance negation, and gil negate authority resistance at layer 20+
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But then again if SNI tells Gil that Ren can do those things to Enuma Elish he'd probably just let the AoE do the work.
Do I look like I know who's who in Persona/SMT? And the scans show bonds strengthening/being remembered causing people to be able to fight others. Which means that is probably isn't passive and requires Ren to realize how dangerous Ea actually is before being DED
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Oh wow.
Read the descriptions, they explain it. And it’s not limited to that, the justification will tell you that.
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Guess what Gil lacks on his profile lol
Which doesn't look to be fast enough to not get splated by Ea.
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Uh, did you not see the part with Flynn? Fighting an adapting to a higher-D opponent he couldn’t even see before, and able to hit & slap him, then kill him?
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Which happened after he took an attack IIRC
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you mean the fighting part? no, i'm pretty sure you go first in that battle. Flynn goes from below 1-A to 1-A in a flash.
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…no, the moment the fight starts (in which you get the first move) you damage him.
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"Flynn recovered!"
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Then it's a stomp, Gilgamesh can't do anything.
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And before anyone asks why, Ea one-shots people comparable to Gilgamesh, Ren adapts to its power, Gil can't hit Ren with anything else, cause he doesn't have it on his profile, even then, Ren can easily just go 1-A with resistances to suit such in response to that.
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No, that happens later in the fight, where Sanat engages you in dialogue, and your response & resolve recovers/boosts your stats.
Gilgamesh isn’t 1-A, so it wouldn’t be 1-A in potency.
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What he don't have on his profile?
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I talk about joker not gilga.
If RE of joker can let him be 1-A then it's 1-A on potency and so it bypass authority resistance of Gilgamesh
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Gilgamesh apparently has a 1-A NP laying around according to a user in the last page. Ren would adapt to that.
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This IIRC.
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but if he starts with EA, why would it matter??
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Because it's something people can argue Gil to be able to do here, it's reinforcing that this is a stomp.
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I’m not understanding.
Huh?
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Yeah, no, don’t start the pretentiousness again. I asked for a simple explanation, nothing more.
Is Gilgamesh’s only form of offense GOB & EA?
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All of his weapon is in GOB so yeah, he doesn't have any offensive hax except the hax of his weapon.
If you talk about the weapon they can do many thing, but none of them are above the potency of the RE/AD of joker.
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Er, wow. Okay. Guess this is a stomp, then.
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I literally did.
Nope. Anything he has is countered or resisted.
Ren literally adapts to one-shot Gilgamesh if he uses Ea. I go onto point out that even if Gil busts out the 1-A thing he has it also gets adapted to. Is that not enough of an explanation?
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Ten Crown and EA are his pride, but it's all stomped by Ren.
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Thanks captain obvious.
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I mean having a 1-A potency RE/AD who is passive can only lead to that
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honestly, RE ability is one of the broken abilities and that's augmented by Ren's own potential which scales to 1-A. all attacks under 1-A will be adapted by Ren.
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I guess this can be closed, I was hoping it would be fair.
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RiP. He walks away with a new Persona, at least.
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If the RE was not passive it would have been better. But passive mean that joker resist and tank everything from gilga before gilga even move. And since it's worker on a 1-a guy it mean immeasurable speed can't bypass it
