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Because he can survive within the Atziluth, a 1-A realm with an infinite amount of ways to perceive it and is formed by cognition.
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The King’s Last Jester - Joker vs Gilgamesh
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There it is
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my fault then
then what stop ren ? gil can't bypass his regen neither
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We already conceded EA nukes his regen.
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No, later key.
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It's got 6-D AOE lol
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i know, i'm more talking if ren doesn't get some thing that let him tank it directly etc
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How fast/often does he use EA?
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In this key? First move.
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Alright, i'm back at Nasuverse and the first thing i saw was my match with Sche and this
Houston, what the f*** did you just made o.0
Houston, what the f*** did you just made o.0
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An annoying thing.
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Yeah.
Also surrounds himself in those 6-D space and time winds for a few seconds before nuking.
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Also Joker, Ren, Akira and The Smash Announcer FRA.
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Chill guys with the votes, the debate isn't over yet
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We're talking about a character that can jump several tiers via RE/AD, has absurd amounts of versatility and broken levels of Supernatural Willpower.
Gil normally uses EA to kill not to incap (iirc) which will only cause Joker to comeback much more powerful, at best Gil can only incap but more likely Joker will eventually surpass him which is why I voted for him. Unless I'm missing something Gil doesn't have the means to permanently put down Joker.
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But I was told it was GOB?
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In his first key, yeah. But Gil tends to nuke with Ea immediately if he's serious in this key. And since this Gil isn't actually that much of an arrogant prick...
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Alrighty, in this key, what stops Ren from switching to null/reflect/absorb wind?
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You mean that ridiculously vague ressurection with no justifications? If it works then Ren stomps and Gil can't do anything.
Kinda needs to either be 6-D and have feats of nomming/nulling/reflecting a 6-D space-time manip
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he will understand via his SNI that Ren must be fought directly with EA
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If he evolves to his level, he evolves to the level where he can affect him. See the Yosuke & Labrys scans.
Resurrection?
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Joker doesn't have High-Godly in this key.
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Based from this
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it will be a stomp match if gil can't do anything, Also his RE works when in the middle of battle
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Cause we've already established that Gil is not hitting Ren with anything but Enuma Elish, if that can be countered easily in-character by Ren, you know what happens next.
It lists vague ressurection in second key's skill accessories IIRC
Doesnt he do this after an attack? Cause if it's during an attack I stand by Ren stomping.
It lists vague ressurection in second key's skill accessories IIRC
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Also I think that SNI showing Gil Ren has stuff he literally cannot comprehend is spooky enough to Ea immediately even if he started casual.
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gil can negate resurrection with conceptual weapon.
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But Ren has no resurrection. He doesn’t have High-Godly, I’m not understanding where these claims are coming from?
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"All previous abilities to a greater extent. Resurrection, Death Manipulation, Limited Resistance Negation (with Stagnant Air and Foul Breath) and Damage Reduction. Status Effect Inducement which includes Empathic Manipulation and Fear Manipulation. Additional Magic which includes Ice Manipulation and Mind Manipulation. Invulnerability to Hunger, Rage, Despair and Confusion, Burns, Freeze and Shock."
I never said he had High-Godly, but second key lists ressurection lol
You that he will never land? Ever?
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Oh. That resurrection is only something he can use on his allies, not on himself. Cause he'd be dead.
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Thought so lol
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Well, i guess what Axiom said for Ren win-con is wrong
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Yeah, that comes from Recarm, which resurrects his party, not him.
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But right now Ren being able to do anything about getting blasted with Ea is still up in the air, so I don't feel comfortable voting
