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Ren fights the Doom Slayer.

True end game key is used, Joker has Satanael as his main persona but can use other personas if needed.

Ancient gods key is used for Doomslayer

Speed is =

Both in character
 
@Pizzabox492 I would advise you take a step back from making matchup's for a bit, and take a look at the Tiering System. Try to understand the gap's between the tier's that you are using, and if you don't understand something about it, please ask for clarification from someone willing to answer and knowledgeable on the tiering system. This is not a personal attack, I just think it could help you to grasp a better understanding of the system.
 
why does everyone say joker is outerversal or super strong, people on deathbattle reddit says hes superhuman level though its always the same 2-3 people who downplay him bruh
 
why does everyone say joker is outerversal or super strong, people on deathbattle reddit says hes superhuman level though its always the same 2-3 people who downplay him bruh
Other scalers don't view Megami Tensei as a unified, holistic cosmology and often disregard many of the lore statements that would upgrade the characters.
 
@Pizzabox492 I would advise you take a step back from making matchup's for a bit, and take a look at the Tiering System. Try to understand the gap's between the tier's that you are using, and if you don't understand something about it, please ask for clarification from someone willing to answer and knowledgeable on the tiering system. This is not a personal attack, I just think it could help you to grasp a better understanding of the system.
yeah what king said

also your OP should look something like this

 
why does everyone say joker is outerversal or super strong, people on deathbattle reddit says hes superhuman level though its always the same 2-3 people who downplay him bruh
You know why ? DB is dumb that all,they mtf scale vegeta to hundred of universe in a vid and I stop watch them from that moment
 
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