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The Gate Guardian vs. Noah of Dreams (Road vs Clef)

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WeeklyBattles said:
343 is to Clef as Khorne is to Kharn, minus the nulling of every unfair power for the sake of combat
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That should only be useful for his immortality like it says possibly on his profile. Simliar to the Presence and Spectre it just goes toward his immortality it wont intervene for him. Roads not killing him just assuming control of his body and BFRing his soul

Kaltias said:
I don't think that type 9 prevents mind hax
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Not the immortality, soul hax removes the issue and he would just be hitting a projection beforehand with mind/erasure attacks
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Zensum Except you dont need to hit anything to mind and memory hax someone
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Kaltias said:
I fail to see why being a dream prevents something that affects your mind from working. Dreams are a part of the mind
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He has to mind hax a mind right? Her body hes facing in the real world is just a illusionary projection.
 
Yeah no. Road sends her to the dream world but not the one shes in. And clef is already power nulled and soulscrewed by this point.
 
Can 001 even use it's abilities as a soul?

Even then Clef's gets powered nulled when he is dragged into the dream world.
 
Zen has told you how many times. The Road in the real world is just a projection so he can mind hax it all he wants the real Road won't be affected.
 
Her immortality is a m-body type of thing, right?

So there are two possible cases.

Either the m-body shares the mind with the true self (in which case the latter gets mind haxed too)

Or it doesn't share it, in which case the m-body gets erased/mind haxed and 001 is safe
 
Kaltias said:
Her immortality is a m-body type of thing, right?
So there are two possible cases.

Either the m-body shares the mind with the true self (in which case the latter gets mind haxed too)

Or it doesn't share it, in which case the m-body gets erased/mind haxed and 001 is safe
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No lasting damage can be done to it, it reforms over and over. Meanwhile SCP soul gets BFR in an instant.
 
@LAS

But can she do so without the aid of the m-body which gets erased?

@Zen

Passive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in an instant
 
Kaltias said:
@LAS
But can she do so without the aid of the m-body which gets erased?

@Zen

Passive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in an instant
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What do you mean? The body is just a energy projection an illusion theres nothing to mind hax. It can't be perma erased either. Scp woulda been BFR reguardless
 
Road seems to have something better while she can die via EE comes out she has from what I see more ways to beat him first with BFR and dreams things than clef erase. Mind hax she resists so yeah Road FRA
 
TISSG7Redgrave said:
Road seems to have something better while she can die via EE comes out she has from what I see more ways to beat him first with BFR and dreams things than clef erase. Mind hax she resists so yeah Road FRA
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In what way does she resist mind hax?
 
Oh crap i mixed her up with someone else lol but tbf her body in the real world seems to be non-physical and something like that. Though can he even use his EE on her? I mean to beat road truly you have something like concept attacks AFAIK to hit her effectively in the real world however like I said she can BFR and also mind hax in return too
 
Why would he not be able to use his EE on her? Passive EE and mind hax get used before she gets a chance to BFR like Kal said
 
Already explained why existence and mind hax don't work. Her body again is an illusion projection nothing there to mind hax and her existence is in her dream EE won't hit as its outside range. SCP gets soul BFR from the begining.
 
Can i see a scan of Road doing this without using her illusion body? Maybe it doesn't affect her true self, but her manifestation still gets erased.
 
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