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The fastest 3-D being alive vs the unkillable reptile

@Joseph I'm being 100% serious

@Darkmon Except he can't, GEoM and Reinhard are proof that he cant. He can adapt to most things, but saying he can't adapt to them just because he has never encountered them is flat out wrong.
 
@Darkmon He cant adapt to every ability of a 3-D character, he can adapt to most things, but saying he can't adapt to them just because he has never encountered them is flat out wrong.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
but saying he can't adapt to them just because he has never encountered them is flat out wrong.
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...I have a hard time believing you're serious with this. No disrespect
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Darkmon He cant adapt to every ability of a 3-D character, he can adapt to most things, but saying he can't adapt to them just because he has never encountered them is flat out wrong.
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no its not worng to say he can when he hasnt is wrong that would be the very definition of a NLF
 
I'd have to say the exact opposite. If they haven't shown it, I can't say they can do that. For example, my personal favorite being to wank, Lavos, has resistance negation. Yet I can't say he can negate resistance to say, causality manipulation because he's never shown that, whether he likely can or can't.
 
The real cal howard said:
I'd have to say the exact opposite. If they haven't shown it, I can't say they can do that. For example, my personal favorite being to wank, Lavos, has resistance negation. Yet I can't say he can negate resistance to say, causality manipulation because he's never shown that, whether he likely can or can't.
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exactly
 
To adapt to stronger versions of it. Ala Hit and Ryuko. I don't see anyone saying Doomsday can adapt to say, Kaguya Houraisan's hax since he technically survives that.
 
@Cal Hit's and Ryuko's adaptation are nowhere near the level that 682's is. Why wouldnt Doomsday be able to?
 
I know about the bfr. I was just asking if Wally can slow down scp 682 for a few months why can't he do it forever or will scp 682 reactive evolution prevent it from him from being frozen forever.
 
Bro, because it's severe NLF. Now if Doomsday or 682 get out of it, then sure, they can adapt. But until they do get out of it, then no.
 
If you're saying Reactive Evolution only works against things the character has faced, then by logical deduction that means that it wouldn't work against any ability they haven't encountered, which is no different than the character only having resistances. Again, with this, the power is useless in any fight.
 
For adaptations, Midora takes some time to learn his abilities using Mirror Neuro while fighting. However if Midora fought Flash he would be frozen instantly given Flash speed, since Flash can abuse his speed to freeze any character before the adaptation can take place. That's a primary reason why speed steal is considered broken because Flash is fast
 
If said power will instantly defeat you, then logically, you don't have time to adapt. If I have RE, i can adapt to fire manipulation if it doesn't kill me. But I cannot adapt to a Hakai because I haven't. Heck, this whole case is a major point in one of my characters, so I'm not pulling this out of my ass. If an outside force sped up 682 out of a speed steal, then no doubt he'd adapt. But until then, it's not gonna work.
 
@Joseph Midora isnt 682 though, it doesnt take 682 a long time to adapt and Midora's adaptation isnt a passive ability. Also, saying the Flash can freeze ANY character is an NLF...
 
I am going to point out that Edmond Dante's is a 3-D being with immeasurable speed, so...

As for this fight, inconclusive. 682 adapts, but the flash is too fast for it to ever hit
 
@Cal

Defeat =/= kill. Many powers 682 has adapted to "instantly defeated" him.

"Heck, this whole case is a major point in one of my characters, so I'm not pulling this out of my ass."

How is that even remotely relevant?
 
I thought 682 does take time to reactive evolve? Might be inconsistent though due to different writers, but in the case where that one thing (the technical term) was trying to absorb him, it took a while for him to evolve against it before he managed to absorb it.

Have to agree with Everlasting on the fact that defeat =/= kill, though.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Joseph Midora isnt 682 though, it doesnt take 682 a long time to adapt and Midora's adaptation isnt a passive ability. Also, saying the Flash can freeze ANY character is an NLF...
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Well Midora can adapt as soon as the ability affects his body. And Flash can speed steal from planets, people etc. Any character is stretch but people slower than Flash is fair game (Flash is the fastest measured character I think). How many people people's ability has 682 absorbed and what are they?
 
@Ever. You're kidding, right? The guy who's main power is speed is going up against a guy who is astronomically stronger, more savage, and will keep on getting stronger. And you want to equalize speed. I'm sorry if that sounds rude, I really am, but, bro...

@WB. It's as much as an NLF as SS character's atomization or GER in general. In which it isn't. If they don't have a resistance, then c'est la vie.
 
@Cal

I don't remotely see how a character's main schtick is a reason we can't equalize speed. Unless you want this to be overwhelmingly unfair for 682.

It's like saying we can't have Optimus be bloodlusted in a vs. thread because his main personality trait is pacifism.
 
If my main gimmick is running fast, how is it fair if you're taking it away. For flash, equalizing speed would be like equalizing a Dragon Ball character's AP.
 
Equalizing Flash speed to 682 would be same as equalizing Goku's AP to Naruto. I don't get the point of equalizing speed for speedsters, better as start equaling AP too from now on
 
Seriously, guys, give me one legitimate reason why we can't equalize speed for speedsters. It being their gimmick is not a valid reason.
 
Equalizing speed is no different than equalizing AP in this case. Goku vs Naruto anyone? Since Naruto has lower AP putting him against Goku without equalizing AP is unfair.

Nerfing Flash to make things fair isn't really fair, is it? Nerfing is biased
 
WeeklyBattles said:
TBH 682 is the closest thing to NLF without being completely NLF.
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682 and saitama are living no limit fallacies but 682 somehow manages to bend our rules of NLF
 
By your logic speed equalization shouldn't exist at all. If you're going to make a match where one character is absurdly faster than the other without equalizing speed, you have no right to make the thread at all.
 
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