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The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

The amount of characters in DC that even have an outside chance at Tier 0 is exceedingly small, like a single digit number. Even among those, like the Overvoid, there's a very strong argument to be made against it. I'm not even of the opinion that the Overvoid has an R>F relationship with the flaw.
 
I know next to nothing about that branch, and it's not canon as a whole to the English version, which is the only one we're allowing on the site.
Why?

Last I remember (4 years ago), there was no issue with using translated articles from other branches.
Of course, it isn't that logical to recognize a difference in existence/state/energy between two beings as not being comparable by numerical values while expressing that by giving it a numerical value. So dividing the tiers into physical values and metaphysical existence makes sense
My argument's more that fiction typically doesn't operate by such strict rules of inaccessibility. So what we're actually doing is just equalising verses which never establish such things, but happen to not contradict it, to being far above verses that don't mention such concepts, or have them be contradicted.

(Specifically, that they include R>F/ontological superiority, but don't put it above all mathematics & composition of lower objects)

So, disagree with the stuff based on that, but agree with the unsavoriness of people determining whether or not they're in favour by which verses it upgrades or downgrades.
 
so will the marvel and dc cringe dudes become tier 0 as well?
DC goes for DeMatteis’ Gods, such as The Divine Presence & The Smile (The Smile I don’t have recollection of but I know The Divine Presence because I read Matteis’ Spectre comics)

Seeker and The Mystery’s (Which isn’t related to DC) The Magician would get 0 from it. It’s literally DeMatteis’ interpretation of God in fictional form

I still say we should separate The Divine Creator from TOAA for the reasons I mentioned earlier. They retconned a lot of the main stuff from DeMatteis’ stories so it’s dubious to assume The Divine Creator interpretation stayed for TOAA. If we separate that, The Divine Creator should get 0 due to the statement from Matteis that every fictional depiction of God / The Creator he made are the same entity.
 
DC goes for DeMatteis’ Gods, such as The Divine Presence & The Smile (The Smile I don’t have recollection of but I know The Divine Presence because I read Matteis’ Spectre comics)

Seeker and The Mystery’s (Which isn’t related to DC) The Magician would get 0 from it. It’s literally DeMatteis’ interpretation of God in fictional form

I still say we should separate The Divine Creator from TOAA for the reasons I mentioned earlier. They retconned a lot of the main stuff from DeMatteis’ stories so it’s dubious to assume The Divine Creator interpretation stayed for TOAA. If we separate that, The Divine Creator should get 0 due to the statement from Matteis that every fictional depiction of God / The Creator he made are the same entity.
The Smile isn't a separate profile and is the same as the Divine Presence.
 
even if chinese SCP isn't translated it's still recognized by placeholder as being its own patasphere and i can tell you for sure if we used chinese SCP it sure is getting erased off the wiki for this one which is made by this guy https://scp-wiki-cn.wikidot.com/scp-vs-battle
"Gods Beyond Absolute Infinity"? Surely this article is a well-written work of art and not at all loaded with VS-
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Ah.
 
Since the margin is 8 in favor and only 2-3 against (not sure what the deal with Agnaa is), are we just waiting for Ant to come back from vacation right now?

Of course any other admin votes would still be welcome.
 
Since the margin is 8 in favor and only 2-3 against (not sure what the deal with Agnaa is), are we just waiting for Ant to come back from vacation right now?
I've personally informed Ant about the thread's near-conclusion. Given he has been popping into existence every then and again for the past few days, it's a matter of time before he sees it.
 
I've personally informed Ant about the thread's near-conclusion. Given he has been popping into existence every then and again for the past few days, it's a matter of time before he sees it.
Ultima, can you take a little peek at this cosmology?


Will it become tier 0?
 
From what I can see, Chinese SCP actually is guilty of the kind of battleboarding-esque writing the main branch is often wrongly accused of using, so I'd be against allowing it.
 
Since the margin is 8 in favor and only 2-3 against (not sure what the deal with Agnaa is), are we just waiting for Ant to come back from vacation right now?

Of course any other admin votes would still be welcome.
My post was pretty clear; my vote's for, whether Idiosyncratic wishes to list it accurately or not.
From what I can see, Chinese SCP actually is guilty of the kind of battleboarding-esque writing the main branch is often wrongly accused of using, so I'd be against allowing it.
I'd like that decision to be made a bit more rigorously. To make sure that it isn't done by some selective quoting of articles that could also be done against the English branch, to similar effect.
 
Ah Ultima, I found the original question about that infinite regression thing I was babbling about:

Post in thread 'The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"'
https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-c...ces-of-the-tiering-system.159822/post-6308227

Post in thread 'The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"'
https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-c...ces-of-the-tiering-system.159822/post-6318507

Not sure if this’ll help much, but it’s worth a shot. Even through text, my communication be ass sometimes
 
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