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Btw another question, All supreme beings in fiction can become tier 0 or they need r>f transcendence requirements of some sort to get to tier 0?
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The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"
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It's not just a supreme being, it's a specifically worded type of supreme being. An all-encompassing ultimate reality, which by nature sees everything as less real aspects of itself; so a form of ontological superiority is needed in some form.
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I love how this revision kind of ***** on a footnote from SCP-3812.
I'm very sad about filters in general.
I'm very sad about filters in general.
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? 3812 is keeping his tier.
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No.
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Apparently not.
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Think of it like the Creators domain in the 7th Expansion.
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i doubt they even going to act, let alone fight
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I mean they're just for hypothetical versus scenarios so i thought there would be, plus they're fictional too so there's that.
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Anything up to High 1-A+ is a debate but 0 is just preference because they're all meant to be equal
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Ultima reminds me again if High 1-A+ is also a hierarchy or the very pinnacle of it?
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I wish I could read the thread seems like a fun topic but I'm just too lazy
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The arguments are fun as well.
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All I care about is Umineko what tier would they be
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fatherinite high 1-A on very existent misfit
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Umineko is interesting since they sort of have an analogous system for R>F. How accurate it is to be determined.
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I'd like to think of a battle between them as such:
Imagine a wall, that wall is very real, just like us. It's separates all fiction, all the novels, plays, comics, movies and stories by mouth. Basically all forms of ideas that are not real and are told, shown, written or just thoughts you get(as weirdly as they come
).Now let's assume that there are tier 0 beings present between 2 fictions, these beings fit all the criteria for being tier 0. Now let's take away the wall that separates fiction, guess what? Do these beings duke it out to establish dominance? Hell no! They where always ONE from the beginning, they had, are and will always will be ONE. From the very beginning, it was the wall that had separated them.
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Umineko is weird. Things like the Metaroom aren't really even “meta.” The system goes in a sort of ladder. We can argue that the City of Books has to be at least 1-A and possibly even High 1-A.
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Pretty nice analogy.
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why would the City of Books be possibly High 1-A?
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I retracted my statement for High 1-A because it's unqualified. The realm is far above most Territorial Lords and Voyager Witches' domains and each book is “any” size and infinite. This place also contains countless amounts of fragments and all books are those fragment equivalent, just as you know “books.”
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Trigger
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I know right?
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Even the human domain has R>F, let alone the witch domain. I think Featherine will be at least High 1-A.
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I don't really think that's how R>F is being treated here in conjunction with the new system vision of R>F.
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I’ll have you know I asked recently and was in fact almost killed by hammers, thank you very much
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Could you elaborate on why? Also, some guy claimed Eua isn't Featherine. Any thoughts on that regard?
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Will SMT be affected in any way by these changes?
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I’ll have you know I asked recently and was in fact almost killed by hammers, thank you very much
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Probably. The Axiom might be 0 depending on context.
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Does that mean other characters will be High 1-A?
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It's very possible. Though I do think 1-A is pretty much guaranteed. High 1-A still might be possible as well.
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Pretty sure Ultima actually has said that they don't think the Axiom will apply for Tier 0, but even then, just because a series has a Tier 0 does not mean it will also have High 1-A characters.
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Ultima is a “they?” Someone's probably going to make an SMT revision Cosmology and we can evaluate if those reasons are good enough. It's unlikely though.
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The Axiom is said to be able to be surpassed and could also be perceived. Doubt tier 0 would work at all.
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