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The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"
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Dawg ain’t even needle level
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Get yo profile up first
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I think that's still being hashed out by the supporters, and frankly that's the least of my concerns atm
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Pretty sure every verse that can be and is effected is going to need its own CRT so yeah that's for those dudes to figure out
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Generally speaking I'm not a fan of the questions of "how will [x] verse be affected?" It's not like I don't understand. It's a question on a lot of people's minds. But like... I'm 99% sure the supporters themselves are trying to work out, so it'll happen when it happens
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A lot of these questions could be answered through patience alone, or just asking verse supporters in the appropriate general discussion thread tbh. I'm curious why something like that needs to be asked here, instead of like. just asking an SMT supporter directly. Not like they'd kill you with hammers for asking (I assume).
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Pretty sure without further context they're Low 1-A yeah
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Hello everyone!
I'm abit confused about boundless in the system of ultima.
so a verse can only have ONE boundless being? and a 3D being cannot have boundless AP anymore? Can boundless beings even lose or be surpassed?
I'm abit confused about boundless in the system of ultima.
so a verse can only have ONE boundless being? and a 3D being cannot have boundless AP anymore? Can boundless beings even lose or be surpassed?
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Hiya. So, from what I gathered, Technically only one Boundless being can exist, but there can exist aspects of that being that are for all intents and purposes the same entity. As for the 3D part, no, it would be a contradiction for a 3D being to have Boundless Power, but Boundless Hax can be debated dependent on the circumstances surrounding that. And, if the Boundless being is surpassed or loses in any regard, they aren't Boundless
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Buddy, the followups to the 2019 revision didn't finish until, like, last year.
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I said "hopefully", not "realistically".
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Bro does NOT want to read An Ode to Transcendence"Gods Beyond Absolute Infinity"? Surely this article is a well-written work of art and not at all loaded with VS-
Ah.
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Well, what if the one that is boundless in a verse isn't a being but a cosmic law that governs the verse?
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Does wod tiering change or remain same
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Change! Expect Essential Divinity(I AM THAT I AM).
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weaker?
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"Let's see if DT finds the results acceptable" - Antvasima
Kind of made me smile and cringe a little bit at the same time.
Like, I thought it was pretty clear what his stance is, and that he wouldn't be changing it. But also, does it really matter? The result is 11 to 2...
What's gonna happen if he disagrees again, which he's been doing the whole time? I would HOPE nothing.
I find the amount of time this thread has taken to just be depressing. 3 whole months. And even still, there is more stalling like this.
Kind of made me smile and cringe a little bit at the same time.
Like, I thought it was pretty clear what his stance is, and that he wouldn't be changing it. But also, does it really matter? The result is 11 to 2...
What's gonna happen if he disagrees again, which he's been doing the whole time? I would HOPE nothing.
I find the amount of time this thread has taken to just be depressing. 3 whole months. And even still, there is more stalling like this.
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I mean Ant waited on DT's opinions on the Marvel Cosmology rework with the Abstracts level beings. That took so long despite the majority agreeing and all DT argued for is just some concern. Ultima's response was pretty good though."Let's see if DT finds the results acceptable" - Antvasima
Kind of made me smile and cringe a little bit at the same time.
Like, I thought it was pretty clear what his stance is, and that he wouldn't be changing it. But also, does it really matter? The result is 11 to 2...
What's gonna happen if he disagrees again, which he's been doing the whole time? I would HOPE nothing.
I find the amount of time this thread has taken to just be depressing. 3 whole months. And even still, there is more stalling like this.
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I don't particularly mind. If he regularly disagrees, then nothing will happen. If he decided to veto the thread (Which I doubt he will), then I highly doubt that'd be left without consequences, since it'd be just a prime example of what bad of an idea giving absolute veto powers to any user is, for everyone to see, regardless of how they feel about the revision."Let's see if DT finds the results acceptable" - Antvasima
Kind of made me smile and cringe a little bit at the same time.
Like, I thought it was pretty clear what his stance is, and that he wouldn't be changing it. But also, does it really matter? The result is 11 to 2...
What's gonna happen if he disagrees again, which he's been doing the whole time? I would HOPE nothing.
I find the amount of time this thread has taken to just be depressing. 3 whole months. And even still, there is more stalling like this.
So, as I see it, the thread is really only nominally contingent on his approval. Will pass either way unless a miracle happens, at this rate.
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I'm surprised you aren't affected by how often this kind of thing happens in threads with the two of you. I'd be very annoyed, personally. Next level patience. Kudos.
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Does this seem like 0?
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Ein Sof is 0, yeah.
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No idea about SMT, but the only change in Marvel is that all Low 1-A stuff becomes 1-A.
Don't forget the 3 years it'll take for Ultima's other tiering stuff to finish."Let's see if DT finds the results acceptable" - Antvasima
Kind of made me smile and cringe a little bit at the same time.
Like, I thought it was pretty clear what his stance is, and that he wouldn't be changing it. But also, does it really matter? The result is 11 to 2...
What's gonna happen if he disagrees again, which he's been doing the whole time? I would HOPE nothing.
I find the amount of time this thread has taken to just be depressing. 3 whole months. And even still, there is more stalling like this.
Well f*ck me.
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@Saikou_The_Lewd_King is cookie clicker gonna change or not?
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Would we divide TOAA from the Divine Creator?
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Wait, I thought TOAA was the ultimate being in Marvel?
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No? Infinity Conflict already highlights this as well as the Ending. Not to mention the Incredible Hulk and more so, Defenders: Beyond. G.O.D.S and we saw the face of Godhead: Enigma in recent stories and even that doesn't seem to fit 0. In other words, the Divine Creator is the only contender, for now.
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Most of the stories suck right now. Except Immortal Thor.
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Btw how does this battle between other tier 0 works in your new system?
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It doesn't. At the absolute best, verse equalization just kicks in and makes them the same character.
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They don't. They are all as absolute and all-encompassing as each other, all of them being equal to each other, as to not be on that level would disqualify them from being a Monad.
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That's truly awesome. So only battle between tiers below tier 0 then?
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