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The Blue bomber vs The Umbra Witch ( Redux.)

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@UMR What are you talking about? Bayo can have two different sets of guns at the same time and can switch them at will

And if she so much as pokes him she can overload him like she's done to basically any technology that's not her weapkns
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
>No Battle Applicable cutscenes
Ever played Megaman 8? That is filled with anime cutscenes where we see Rock in action.
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This composite megaman with his full arsenal not rock from megaman 8. He wins in mutliple ways
 
It's more of a case of "Why would he NOT use Time Stop whn he gets slowed?" kind of thing, tho.

My vote hinges entirely on whether or not he has the chance to before getting oneshotted after slow, rather than him leading with it for no reason.

Because let's be frank, you have to be a god tier in stupidity not to try countering time slow with stop in this situation.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
>Bayonetta only has one gun set
>But Megaman has every weapon ever

Seems 100% legit
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>SBA says standard equipment

Didn't think I'd have to mention MM when

1. I don't know his standard equipment

2. I'm talking about Bayo

>Seems 100% legit


@Weekly

Her standard is Scarborough Fair in her hands and on her feet. If I use Artemis + Kalina Ann in DMC 3, Dante will still be wielding Ebony and Ivory in the cutscenes. Same concept.
 
@Saik Considering Mega gets time slow/stop/whatever from a boss who uses THAT EXACT kind of ability on him, I'm pretty sure he understands what's going on as soon as he gets slowed.

You have a point on the "will be hard to react on time" after being slowed, of course, hence why I'm waiting for other people's resolutions on this before saying anything more.
 
It is false cause I never said those words. I said, her standard equipment is Scarborough Fair for guns.

Even referencing the fact Dante could carry two types of guns shows I understood at least that.
 
Her standard equipment can be every single weapon she acquires throughout either game since this is bayonetta at her strongest and she can switch weapons at will.
 
Unite My Rice said:
Though if we're being completely honest, SBA dictates standard equipment, so Bayo would have Scarborough Fair, not Bazillions, as she can only wield one gun set, and SF is her standard gun in Bayo 1.
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Yes you did
 
Guys, guys. Pretty sure he meant she starts the match with that one equiped rather than she only has this weapon and can only use this weapon for the entire match.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Yes you did
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As far as her cutscenes, game portrayal, etc, she only wields Scarborough Fair, that's the basis of that. In gameplay, yes she can wield 2, but gameplay =/= cutscenes or story depiction.

Like I said, I can choose whatever weapon combo I want, but come end game cutscenes, you're forced with the weapons that are that character's standard equipment.
 
They only show Scarborough Fair because they can't account for all the possible weapons a player can use in a situation for pre-rendered scenes.

This is like, basic Gameplay and Story Segregation.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
Her standard equipment can be every single weapon she acquires throughout either game since this is bayonetta at her strongest and she can switch weapons at will.
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These are 5B keys
 
I can buy Bayonetta starting with base weapon, though I also agree with the side that says she can change to Bazillions whenever (lest we also get Mega not being able to change buster either).
 
Or it's because that's her standard equipment. Scarborough Fair are her standard guns in B1, Love is Blue is her standard set in B2. You can wield tens of guns and weapons throughout any DMC game, but Dante is always using Rebellion + E&I as his standard set of weapons.

The only time we see them switch during cutscenes is when said weapons are actually involved in the plot, in which case it's usually only temporary.

Standard equipment =/= player choice (especially when you only get them as a reward for beating the game on hard).

Same applies for Megaman.
 
It seems as OOC for Bayo to pull bazillions from the get go as it's OOC for Mega to pull Time Stop before she slows him down.

Since she won't be pulling atomizer that fast while Mega would not be DUMB enough to not try to pull a Time Stop when faced with time slow and taking his previous knowledge of this kind of hax into account, I'm guessing Inconclusive.
 
@Fate

Standard Equipment restricts them to their usual gear unless the OP allows full/other equipment.

Let's look at OBD's definition of the term.

"Standard Equipment refers to the weapons/gear/objects that a character usually carries with them, and thus would be expected to have by default in an OBD fight. It does not include such things as special one-time powerups, weapons the character carried only for a short period, or things that the character wouldn't normally have with them and would need prep to build/acquire."

It's like you wouldn't expect Yhwach to have the Almighty + every Sternritter power in a debate unless the OP says he gets those extra abilities.
 
@UMR I was under the impression Mega was composite for the match. Dunno Bayonetta that well, on the other hand.
 
Idk what MM has other than his arm cannon though, so if the OP said he's composite that's between him and whoever is knowledgable in that verse.
 
Mega changes color and then the same buster in his arm does whatever else he wants it to.

If this is Composite Mega then he should be able to access all his weapons via the same arm cannon/buster just by "changing colors".
 
I was other the impression Knight was using SBA unfairly, allowing composite Megaman, while restricting Bayo to standard equipment, which isn't the case.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mega_Man_(Classic)

Megaman has a composite key, and a canon key, and we are using the former, so I assume we're using non-canon/composite Megaman, and standard equipment 5-B Bayo.
 
Yes, just going to say that if Bayonetta activating Witch Time constantly is a gameplay thing, Megaman (Composite) should be able to have access all of his abilities from gameplay as well.

Meaning that regardless of Megaman's style of fighting, Megaman would be able to utilize whatever it is necessary from his equipment/ability roster to deal with Bayonetta's attacks/abilities.

Meaning if Bayonetta slows down time via Witch Time and slows Megaman down, Megaman should be able to slow down time/stop time as a countermeasure and nullify Bayonetta's witch time.
 
Bayo activating witch time is a lore thing, not just a gameplay thing. And Bayo has a resistance to time slow so slowing time wont counter her
 
Also its in character for her to go to Purgatorio at the beginning of the fight as well where Mega cant technically hit her
 
No its not actually, she's intangible while in paradiso due to being in a parallel universe. Bayo on the other hand can hit him just fine while keeping him time slowed
 
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