The big issue of DBZ Lifting Strenght...

[AKM sama]

This thread has some really dumb arguments, no offense guys. Ki blasts don't have any quantifiable mass. Energy can also push around people, but the portrayal is very inconsistent. We don't scale lifting strength based on ki blasts.

Moving the Super Dragon Balls was an immensely casual feat done by a very powerful character. It's not the full extent of the angel's power, they can probably do so much more than that. And it doesn't scale to the lower characters either.

There have been endless discussions about DB's lifting strength. Truth be told, the lifting strength feats they have are very very unimpressive and inconsistent, and it kind of looks bad on the profiles, so the best option we had was to go with unknown. I believe the thread should be closed.

 

[SirAlex09]

Moving the Super Dragon Balls was an immensely casual feat done by a very powerful character. It's not the full extent of the angel's power, they can probably do so much more than that. And it doesn't scale to the lower characters either.

They were mainly talking about Zamasu though.

There have been endless discussions about DB's lifting strength. Truth be told, the lifting strength feats they have are very very unimpressive and inconsistent, and it kind of looks bad on the profiles, so the best option we had was to go with unknown. I believe the thread should be closed.

Why don't we use the calculated Class M feats and stack ( accepted) multipliers on top of that ? Because in Vs-debates "unknown" is treated as 0. It's better if he have at least a Low End number than nothing..

 

[DaReaperMan]

Why don't we use the calculated Class M feats and stack ( accepted) multipliers on top of that ? Because in Vs-debates "unknown" is treated as 0. It's better if he have at least a Low End number than nothing..

its actually just treated as below the opponent

 

[SirAlex09]

its actually just treated as below the opponent

Fair enough but it's still kinda stupid if we debate Goku vs Character A and Character A is class 5 for example ....

 

[AKM sama]

They were mainly talking about Zamasu though.

Doesn't Zamasu already have Instant Teleportation though? He could have just teleported them with himself.

Class M multiplied with multipliers would still be unimpressive. I remember we put a lifting strength rating earlier and then took it down again. It was from the first few episodes of DBS when Goku was training with weights on King Kai's planet.

Fair enough but it's still kinda stupid if we debate Goku vs Character A and Character A is class 5 for example ....

Nobody with a sane mind is going to argue Goku can't lift class 5.

 

[Vizer04]

Vegeta can shake the Earth with his Ki.

 

[KingTempest]

Still not lifting

 

[DaReaperMan]

Oh look a High 6-C AP feat!

 

[Orange]

So did nappa, so did goku, beerus and some others
it's really just earthquakes or air pressure or telekinesis [I'm extremely wrong about the latter] so it won't really scale to anything besides environmental damage or minor earthquakes/earth/air/vibrator manipulation. Not necessary LS

 

[Vizer04]

Oh look a High 6-C AP feat!

Even as a joke, how is this feat High 6-C?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Even as a joke, how is this feat High 6-C?

99% sure that shaking an earth-sized planet is High 6-C

 

[Orange]

You'd have better luck arguing that goku's shockwaves can exert enough force to shake the whole macrocosm and scaling it to LS
But that's also wrong

 

[RisingIons]

Why is this still open

 

[DaReaperMan]

Why is this still open

I have no idea

 

[Qawsedf234]

If the thread is done I can close the thread.

 

[AKM sama]

Yeah, putting this thread out of its misery.