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Even then, that sleep fog was a result of a merger of two whole realities and it put the gods out of commission. The fog was built different.Chains of Olympus came out in 2008
Ascension came out in 2013, which is where RE comes from.
And the reasoning is wrong, Morpheus had already been defeated by restored Helios, Kratos passed out from battle and mental toll, especially abandoning his daughter.
I'm still rather iffy on that. I'd like more direct proof that confirms individuals who can't use magic cannot utilize said equipment. Comparing Garou to regular people is not a good comparison to make. If you can post scans or quotes that directly say Kratos' equipment is useless without magic to fuel them, then I'll concede this point.You need magic.
Very rarely can a magical item appear which can be used by a normal mortal without strings attached. I can't even think of one.
That and it refers to the black fog when Morpheus is around. It has nothing to do with freeing Helios.And the reasoning is wrong, Morpheus had already been defeated by restored Helios, Kratos passed out from battle and mental toll, especially abandoning his daughter.
How am I supposed to do that when every relevent character in GoW uses magic?I'm still rather iffy on that. I'd like more direct proof that confirms individuals who can't use magic cannot utilize said equipment. If you can post scans or quotes that directly say this, then I'll concede.
That's a fair point. I suppose I just believe that "magic" and "god" are different. Like whether the Gods themselves are "magic" or just fundamental parts of the universe. I've always seen magic in God of War as something that Gods CAN use, but they aren't made of magic themselves. Like would you say some of the Norse Gods are magic? Would Thor classify as "magic" due to being a God despite not using any magic abilities? I know I'm using examples from a completely different pantheon here and the magic is different in the Greek and Norse realms, but do you see the point I'm trying to make?How am I supposed to do that when every relevent character in GoW uses magic?
That's like reverse burden of proof. You would need to show me a non magical mortal using a significant magical item.
I am not the one supposed to prove a negative.
It's really not that one-sided.My vote still goes for Kratos, I was just wondering if Garou could have a few more wincons that could make this match less one-sided.
I mean, what are Garou's wincons here, cuz other than Ziller, nobody's really listed them or defended Garou to explain why this match isn't a stomp.It's really not that one-sided.
Don't forget the radiation.If Kratos let's this go on for more than a single exchange, Garou would grow too strong and fast for Kratos to land a hit and would be able to kill him.
Grace hasn't it yet.So grace was reached while I was asleep and before OPM supporters could make proper arguments
Cool, not the first time Garou has lost to a lame FRA train anyway
As if people are gonna start changing votes now lmaoGrace hasn't it yet.
Dude, stop being so butt-hurt. Tell me, what can Garou do to stop himself from being cast down all the way to Tartarus with the Souls of Hades? His portals require him to see something in his line-of-sight, and have never been shown to access other dimensions. How will Garou resist having his body destroyed and atomized using Poseidon's Rage, or having his strength nullified with Zeus' Fury? Can he resist having time stopped when he himself hadn't mastered the ability to go back in time? All of Garou's possible wincons were already discussed and debunked in this thread. Kratos is a literal GOD with the weapons of the most powerful Gods in Greek mythology. Garou's just a servant to a God who got easily killed the moment he started resisting God's will.As if people are gonna start changing votes now lmao
Garou just lost because Kratos is a more popular character and the moment anyone brought up a feasible wincon a FRA train was startrd
Can you not assume the worst in everyone who voted against Garou? The votes hit grace and after Ziller gave decent arguments they were pinged to recheck the thread and still kept the votes.As if people are gonna start changing votes now lmao
Garou just lost because Kratos is a more popular character and the moment anyone brought up a feasible wincon a FRA train was startrd
Watch as people copy the winning condition vote and then slightly modify it to make it seem like it's their original idea.All problems will be solved once I begin my campaign to remove FRA from threads
Unironically better actuallyWatch as people copy the winning condition vote and then slightly modify it to make it seem like it's their original idea.
I agree that when people vote they should give at least some brief explanation for why they think a character would win, but I wouldn't assume that all voters who use FRA blatantly post it without reading the arguments.All problems will be solved once I begin my campaign to remove FRA from threads
You're wrong. It's not time stop that's an issue for Garou here, he can RE above that it's everything else.Unironically better actually
it at least encourages people to understand the arguments enough to rephrase them, preventing people from saying FRA to an argument that they don’t actually know why it makes sense
although I’m not salty this time because Garou definitely doesn’t reliably win this match thanks to time stop, but the same can’t be said about a certain Garou vs Meta-Cooler thread.
Garou has no resistance to time stop and his reactive evolution is only shown to resist physical things like radiation, electricity, and heat, or just straight up making him stronger faster and more skilledYou're wrong. It's not time stop that's an issue for Garou here, he can RE above that it's everything else.
Sorry I did everything I could to stall it but now it’s like 18 billion people voting kratos and there’s really nothing that can be done about that anymore soSo grace was reached while I was asleep and before OPM supporters could make proper arguments
Cool, not the first time Garou has lost to a lame FRA train anyway
I wish you luck.All problems will be solved once I begin my campaign to remove FRA from threads
That's not even the wincon people are arguing for GarouI don't see Garou copying magical abilities.
Maybe pseudo scientific replica, but none of the esoteric shenanigans or side effects. But even that requires surviving something and then adapting. Which uhhhh isn't happening here, most retaliation options on Kratos's side are insta kill here.
Aetheric brought up him copying magic attacksThat's not even the wincon people are arguing for Garou
Kratos has 4-A Dura with a Shield that has 2-C dura and then some. Won't be an issue.
Evidence:
Even more unfair for Garou.(@Diamentus, @Robo, @Planck69, @GilverTheProtoAngelo, @Emirp sumitpo, @chosen, @Popted2, @Maverick_Zero_X, @Franako, @KLOL506)
OP specified the AP weapons are restricted not durability wise. Also, you can read the thread for Ziller's argument.
IMO more like Poseidon.Garou gets treated like Zeus at the end of GoW3 FRA
Pretty ******* good actually. It can effortlessly reflect BoO's attacks and even counter it outright. The only forces stronger than it are Fear Zeus and PoH Kratos.Even more unfair for Garou.
By the way, how good is the Golden Fleece's reflecting capabilities?
The point was about the radiation not the APKratos has 4-A Dura with a Shield that has 2-C dura and then some. Won't be an issue.
Kratos activates Rage of God's to become invulnerable and also remove status effects.The point was about the radiation not the AP
The nuclear fission attacks have more than enough radiation to ohko him
Edited. And yeah, pretty much.IMO more like Poseidon.