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Tensura Web Novel Revision : Our Slime Is Actually Multiverse Level+

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haven't the changes been applied a while ago? This should probably be closed then. it's just derailing
 
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Yeah.... i definitely disagree with everything in the OP. I know my vote doesn't matter since this thread already got accepted (somehow) but i just want to make my disapproval known as the reasoning behind 2-A and Infinite Speed isn't satisfactory to me at all.
 
Deceived said:
Yeah.... i definitely disagree with everything in the OP. I know my vote doesn't matter since this thread already got accepted (somehow) but i just want to make my disapproval known as the reasoning behind 2-A and Infinite Speed isn't satisfactory to me at all.
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infinite speed was rejected
 
Celestial_Pegasus said:
If imaginary space is only infinite at the end of the series then space-time continous attack shouldn't have Multiversal+ range.
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Celestial_Pegasus said:
Space time attack was introduced before imaginary space was said to be infinite, if we conclude Ciel upgraded it while spend time at the end of space time, there is no reason to say it could still reach imaginary space once its upgraded.

Unless in the after stories it's stated or implied people with the ability can still harmed Veldora, gonna have to disagree.

Afterstories Veldora would still effectively have "2-A" Immortality though.
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@Celestial_Pegasus

So should anything have been done differently here, or is this revision fine to keep as it is?
 
Multiversal+ with Space-Time Continuous Strike, should be downgraded to Universal+ with Space-Time Continuous Strike.

I also find Rimuru to just be plain Likely Multiverse level+ inaccurate, should be Likely Multiverse level+ with Void God Azathoth, as was suggested before, i am also iffy on it scaling to his durability or striking strength. Ciel, Rimuru's skill, and at this point, other personality really, would have control over imaginary space, but that doesn't really say anything about those other stats ie durability and striking strength.
 
Okay. Thank you for the evaluation.

Can somebody list which other staff members that have commented here so far please? I will need to summon them here to ask what they think.
 
Since the thread is now open, I would like to add this note draft and a better justification
Here is a note draft
The “Likely” Multiverse level+ comes from when Ciel evolved the stomach into imaginary space, but it wasn't infinite (or at least declared infinite) at that point.
Ciel probably evolved imaginary space (not stomach) from something finite to something infinite at the end of spacetime and not when he got the imaginary space. It is advantageous to add that imaginary space was not genuinely described as always being infinite. That's where “likely” comes from because there is no other supporting evidence if it was always infinite or if Ciel expanded to infinity while wandering through the end of space-time. This should be clarified that the size of comes from Ciel's energy and not from the fusion of skills.
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New AP justification
Likely Multiverse level+ with (Ciel has likely turned the stomach into Imaginary Space which is infinite in size, making Imaginary Space hypothetically large enough to contain an infinite amount of space-time continuums)
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Celestial_Pegasus said:
If imaginary space is only infinite at the end of the series then space-time continous attack shouldn't have Multiversal+ range.
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Celestial_Pegasus said:
Space time attack was introduced before imaginary space was said to be infinite, if we conclude Ciel upgraded it while spend time at the end of space time, there is no reason to say it could still reach imaginary space once its upgraded.

Unless in the after stories it's stated or implied people with the ability can still harmed Veldora, gonna have to disagree.

Afterstories Veldora would still effectively have "2-A" Immortality though.
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Antvasima said:
So should anything have been done differently here, or is this revision fine to keep as it is?
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Celestial_Pegasus said:
Multiversal+ with Space-Time Continuous Strike, should be downgraded to Universal+ with Space-Time Continuous Strike.

I also find Rimuru to just be plain Likely Multiverse level+ inaccurate, should be Likely Multiverse level+ with Void God Azathoth, as was suggested before, i am also iffy on it scaling to his durability or striking strength. Ciel, Rimuru's skill, and at this point, other personality really, would have control over imaginary space, but that doesn't really say anything about those other stats ie durability and striking strength.
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Antvasima said:
Okay. Thank you for the evaluation.

Can somebody list which other staff members that have commented here so far please? I will need to summon them here to ask what they think.
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@Elizhaa @Dereck03 @Everything12

What do you think about this?
 
Yes, this thread was closed prematurely earlier despite Celestial Pegasus having what seem to be valid concerns, so I had to reopen it.
 
Thank you for the reply. It currently seems like Celestial Pegasus' preferred revisions should be applied instead then.
 
Antvasima said:
Yes, this thread was closed prematurely earlier despite Celestial Pegasus having what seem to be valid concerns, so I had to reopen it.
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what a mess, what is being discussed now is rimuru's multiversal+ range, the topic's function is the attack potency which has already been decided by majority vote, I suggest closing this topic and creating another one to discuss rimuru's range demotion
 
Dread said:
Since the thread is now open, I would like to add this note draft and a better justification
Here is a note draft

New AP justification
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Antvasima said:
Thank you for the reply. It currently seems like Celestial Pegasus' preferred revisions should be applied instead then.
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Unlock profiles and I will suggested justification as well as Pegasus one
 
LoganKroos said:
what a mess, what is being discussed now is rimuru's multiversal+ range, the topic's function is the attack potency which has already been decided by majority vote, I suggest closing this topic and creating another one to discuss rimuru's range demotion
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Majority vote, how? Did any staff members, other than the ones I notified above, comment here? It seems like this was a major revision that was rushed with a small overweight of support, not all of it from staff with content revision thread evaluation rights, and regular members then repeatedly tried to close it despite other staff members having remaining concerns.

Also, currently three staff members here, all of whom do have evaluation rights, are leaning against this revision.
 
Antvasima said:
Majority vote, how? Did any staff members, other than the ones I notified above, comment here? It seems like this was a major revision that was rushed with a small overweight of support, not all of it from staff with content revision thread evaluation rights, and regular members then repeatedly tried to close it despite other staff members having remaining concerns.

Also, currently three staff members here, all of whom do have evaluation rights, are leaning against this revision.
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they are complaining about rimuru's range and not his attack power, he can't have both 2A because they contradict each other, rimuru's attack power was decided by 3x1 while his range I think everyone agrees that it has to be downgraded, but I suggest another topic and not this one to discuss scope
 
Antvasima said:
Majority vote, how? Did any staff members, other than the ones I notified above, comment here? It seems like this was a major revision that was rushed with a small overweight of support, not all of it from staff with content revision thread evaluation rights, and regular members then repeatedly tried to close it despite other staff members having remaining concerns.

Also, currently three staff members here, all of whom do have evaluation rights, are leaning against this revision.
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I can actually confirm that 3 staff members who have evaluation rights agreed with Attack Potency. I presume, you are talking about his range, which is accurate, but tangential to this thread.
 
Is the profile unlocked? I will apply the changes that staff has agreed as far, as well as add a note there.
 
Wait a bit please. Three staff members think that Celestial Pegasus seems to make sense, with himself included.
 
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and regular members then repeatedly tried to close it despite other staff members having remaining concerns.
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I was the one who requested the closure and it's only because 3 staff members had agreed and the changes had been applied, it's not like I could predict that they would change their minds about this.
 
Celestial_Pegasus said:
i am also iffy on it scaling to his durability or striking strength. Ciel, Rimuru's skill, and at this point, other personality really, would have control over imaginary space, but that doesn't really say anything about those other stats ie durability and striking strength.
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I disagree about durability, the energy Ciel uses is the same as Rimuru's, if she was able to expand imaginary space to infinity using Rimuru's energy then naturally he would scale for the amount of energy used, given that Ciel and Rimuru are basically the same existence, one scales to the other

About universal range+ I agree
 
Not someone well versed on rimuru, but is its "expanding to infinite" or "infinite"?
 
Reiner said:
Not someone well versed on rimuru, but is its "expanding to infinite" or "infinite"?
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Imaginary space is infinite, when I say "expanded to infinity" it's because imaginary space probably wasn't infinite before and Ciel made it infinite at the end of spacetime
 
Peak said:
Imaginary space is infinite, when I say "expanded to infinity" it's because imaginary space probably wasn't infinite before and Ciel made it infinite at the end of spacetime
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So It could contain a 4d universe while it was still finite ?
 
But with that explanation, doesn't that actually give the possibility that the low 2C could be finite in size and when it became Infinite,it could now contain an infinite sized universe,unless the size of what it can contain doesn't matter ?
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Yes it can contain a Low-2C with it's concept of time when it's still finite
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Dread said:
I did not understand the question at all
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He meant it can just be that stomach was low 2c and infinite along time but finite along space while imaginary space can still be low 2c by being infinite along space and time both.
 
Dread said:
I did not understand the question at all
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My question ?.well I was just saying.that it was finite earlier right ? So if it could contain a universe,it would mean the universe was finite in size too right ?.so being an infinite sized space can just mean it could now contain an infinite sized universe Instead of an infinite amount of infinite sized universes

But I think I got a better answer already.
 
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