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Yeah obviously, seeing how skillfull Guy is he probably can switch between normal dan digital lifeform
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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20
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Than velzard.. i gonna be contradictive that she has required SW in her battle with guy in the past from gabriel..
Cuz there is no way shes a digital lifeform in the past..
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i mean there isnt anything that can contradict it though, Digital Lifeform like Chloe can interact with normal people, like how she kissed Rimuru before he evolved, Velzard could be a DLF this whole time and no one know
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«Because there are very few people who can handle this ability, it is a very valuable experience. It was fortuitous that we succeeded in developing the ‘Emergency Response Mode.’ If we observe the Suspended World in this way, it will only be a matter of time before we are able to move.»
Ever since Guy and Chloe had fought briefly, I hadn’t experienced the strange sensation I had felt at that time—the feeling that time had stopped. It was proof that, as Ciel-san had said, no one had triggered the ‘Time Stop.’
Well, it was a world that only a limited number of people could understand, but even so, this ability was surprisingly difficult to handle. It was useless if the other party could also use it—wait, what?
“It can’t be, you?!”
“I’ve learned how to move in a suspended world!”
I shouted and faced Michael with a different expression.
Michael lifted the ‘Time Stop’ and decided to crush Rimuru with an overwhelming difference in power. The ‘Time Stop’ had been obtained by analyzing Velzard’s ‘Patience King Gabriel,’ but it was useless to someone who could manipulate information particles at will. Since maintaining it would only consume unnecessary energy, he decided that it would be more advantageous to fight in a straightforward manner.
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A lot of characters will likely end up being revealed as information lifeforms. Context clues already suggests that Guy Crimson, Velzard, Milim, and Ramiris are likely.
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and what is this supposed to prove
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Yeah.. but wr cant just say guy and velzard is an DLF no prove to begin with..
If velzard is a DLF she would blitz guy in that battle of the past...
U cant say she is an DLF a whole time
If shes an DLF the whole time even when she fight with guy she would win easily..
And yeah so nahh.
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When chronoa kissed rimuru it was in the imaginary world..
But if u talking about chloe in vol19 no likely anyone can interact with IP..
But i also dont think if u became an DLF ur whole body turn into it.
Its litteraly sayd evolve ur spiritual body.. but iono..
Just wait vol20 and prolly it will reveal weither guy or to move in SW need
To be a DLF or nah
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And? How do you think Guy can par with Velzard and shown to know and have experience with Suspended World? he definitely a Digital Lifeform too
Read it again please for the sake of your own argument, you need to be 100% information, the process to become digital lifeform is changing all matter to information, in fact Michael who is a digital lifeform 24/7 can be attacked by the Obera Army, but yeah i agreed that we should wait for volume 20, to see the interaction Rimuru will has to his subordinate after evolving
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if I'm not mistaken at this point in the story he wasn't a DLF yet
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Bruh velzard obtain gabriel after he fought with guy..
And i dont thinm both are even DLF..if guy is an DLF he would beat ivaraj by speed blitzing..u cant prove any weither guy is an DLF or nah..all u do is just guessing without evidence.. ur saying Guy and Velzard is already DLF in the past bla bla bla if so he also would beat milkm eqsily by speed blitzing.. Sobur argument make no scence
Yeah all matter but..but i dont think material body is part of IP.
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ironic
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I had asked about this before, but can't Michael be affected with because any high level being can manipulate of information?
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Suspended world has been presented now so I also agree to wait, next volume the suspended world should appear much more with Milim, Rimuru, Velzard and Zelanus
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true, but that wasnt my point
If anyone can interact with digital lifeform, then it cannot be an antifeat for someone to be a digital lifeform
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I understand what you mean, I was going to join the discussion but volume 20 is so close that I prefer to wait
And it's the way you said it I think it shouldn't be antifeat, information manipulation is very common among demon lord level beings
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I don't understand, what exactly are you trying to prove?
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I believe so, because, despite being introduced recently, SW is something that must be well known by the powerful characters of Tensei, that is, it must already be something very old in history, so in big fights that must have taken place in No In the past, if GUY or Velzard weren't DL they would have been stepped on, although they can move in the still world, they would be almost useless against beings that could manipulate information freely.
So I still have my doubts if you need to be a digital being to move in the still world because Chloe used reverse fate to finish off Michael in SW, so even within the still world certain abilities can be used, my point is if anyone has a skill to increase the speed to the point of Move in the stopped world, it's just a matter of that character activate the skill before time stops completely, the downside is different from DLF, you can't move, let alone activate any skill when the time is already stopped, meaning if you don't activate the skill before time stops completely you won't be able to move or notice that time is stopped
So I still have my doubts if you need to be a digital being to move in the still world because Chloe used reverse fate to finish off Michael in SW, so even within the still world certain abilities can be used, my point is if anyone has a skill to increase the speed to the point of Move in the stopped world, it's just a matter of that character activate the skill before time stops completely, the downside is different from DLF, you can't move, let alone activate any skill when the time is already stopped, meaning if you don't activate the skill before time stops completely you won't be able to move or notice that time is stopped
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yes, but I'm talking about beings that are not digital, not saying that they have, but there may be abilities that allow you to move in the still world even without being a Digital Being.
The speed of digital beings is technically Immeasurable isn't it? or is it infinite?
The speed of digital beings is technically Immeasurable isn't it? or is it infinite?
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for now, if it really is possible to move without being a digital life form, Chloe is the only one who might be able to do this along with Milim, but talking about it is the same as asking unanswered questions, let's wait for the next volume
Generally, when it transcends time and space, it's often immeasurable, but since we don't have feats of them running outside of linear time, it would be infinite if using safe thinking.
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Honestly I won't be surprised if Guy and Chloe are DLF .
Information manipulation via Disintegration is a common thing in Tensura,Testarossa's and Guy's death streak also manipulates information particles,then There's Melt slash and other skills ...
so High level beings being DLF isn't all that surprising .May be they can switch between spiritual lifeforms and DLF like catpija said .
everyone should be able to normally interact with DLF just like they could with Michael .Well that's all I will wait for Volume-20 we will see many buffs and downgrades I believe .(Since everything is made of information particles everyone is technically DLF or has the potential to become one )
Information manipulation via Disintegration is a common thing in Tensura,Testarossa's and Guy's death streak also manipulates information particles,then There's Melt slash and other skills ...
so High level beings being DLF isn't all that surprising .May be they can switch between spiritual lifeforms and DLF like catpija said .
everyone should be able to normally interact with DLF just like they could with Michael .Well that's all I will wait for Volume-20 we will see many buffs and downgrades I believe .(Since everything is made of information particles everyone is technically DLF or has the potential to become one )
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Yeah, Chloe in vol19 it's definitely a DLF, but before she merged with Manas, we don't know yet, it was stated in vol13 that Chloe's body hadn't developed yet and that's why she couldn't keep the suspended world for a long time, maybe she could only move in the suspended world because she had a manas, and that can make it something special about her, just like Ciel is a manas focused on analysis, Michael in absolute control, Chornoa can grant Chloe ability to move without being a DLF, but again, let's just theorize with no concrete answer, let's wait
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this is because only DLF is composed only of information particles, other beings like spirit beings also depend on spirit particles which are like a limiter
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or the explanation may be in the information particles itself, it may be that the information particles to "make" something like matter etc, they end up modifying in some way, so what digital beings access are the particles in their pure state, but I admit that your explanation makes more sense
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yours would be really good too, I hadn't thought of it that way, this kind of stuff just makes me more excited for the end of next month, my hype only increases
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I think the only one capable of that is Ivarage, but I don't think he will participate much in this volumeI'm really anticipating the new villain in the upcoming 20th volume haha ha since I want the villain to be able to fight Rimuru evenly. And wait for normal humans to use countless speeds to travel back and forth lol
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I had seen a spoiler I don't know if it's correct, that Ivaraj would fight Fedway and Michael
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so Michael really is alive, nothing surprising
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it was kind of obvious since Fedway's real body can't be reached by any abilities shown so far
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Ciel spoke as if Michael was going to die for good using imaginary space, so he had doubts
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and he died along with all parallel existences, the problem is that Fedway's real body is way beyond a parallel existence, Velgrind herself said that even if you transcend spacetime you still wouldn't reach him
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and how Michael is allocated in that body was kind of obvious, but chances are it's a lie too, you never know, but I bet he's alive
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I wonder why Fuse made the information particles and mostly made her as the thing that makes up everything in the Slime, I think he made it so that in the end Rimuru and some other beings are above her, like transcending her completely, being above all in the Slime universe, and if that's the case I think there is still one more "evolution" above the DLF, something like what Veldanava should be, I'm looking forward to Vol 20 and the explanations that the fuse will give for that.
If he already has Multiversal reach at this point it would be good, maybe in the future Rimuru can deny type 9 immortalityI don't know...Ciel wouldn't give that hesitation after having made this kind of information
If Michael is dead then it will be Multiversal reach for Rimuru
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