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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

TheGreatJedi13 said:
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Slime Collab confirmed from Granblue Fantasy

i will now proceed to make tier 1 rimuru after the collab thank you
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Are there any other details or is this all for now? I hope it will be nice.
 
CodeCCLL said:
Are there any other details or is this all for now? I hope it will be nice.
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They only announced Rimuru so far but they said there will be a limited Gacha banner for the event duration.

so we don't know the other cast that will be joining yet

That's all the detail so far iirc the event will happen in November (which got some people mixed up cause Halloween and Christman units in granblue are often very strong and limited)

I'll wait for the accounts proper translation later since there did say some other important things in the live stream
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Tensura Digital Lifeform Physiology and Rimuru additions

So as we all know the previous thread did not go very well, but this time I will be addressing the points from here https://vsbattles.com/threads/some-new-abilities-for-rimuru-and-a-new-physiology.169201/ 1) HGR negation is done by Power Nullification, yes but we have to understand that not all...
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Some thing overlooked in this content revision thread:

Since Michael's existence does not end until he is completely absorbed by the Void God Azathoth, we need to remove existence erasure and change it to only deconstruction (quantum level).

The reason for sharing these here is to not let myself forget that this needs to be fixed.
 
CodeCCLL said:
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Tensura Digital Lifeform Physiology and Rimuru additions

So as we all know the previous thread did not go very well, but this time I will be addressing the points from here https://vsbattles.com/threads/some-new-abilities-for-rimuru-and-a-new-physiology.169201/ 1) HGR negation is done by Power Nullification, yes but we have to understand that not all...
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Some thing overlooked in this content revision thread:

Since Michael's existence does not end until he is completely absorbed by the Void God Azathoth, we need to remove existence erasure and change it to only deconstruction (quantum level).

The reason for sharing these here is to not let myself forget that this needs to be fixed.
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Yeah, seems fine, I checked the part of the novel just to be sure and it seems to be that. Tho, I would argue that since their entire being is made of info particIes, it wouId stiII be EE, just a Iower form of it compared to void god? like, it is erasing him at Ieast on an info type 2 IeveI, I think Void God was used Iater to devouver his Ego instead
 
Astral_Trinity439 said:
Tho, I would argue that since their entire being is made of info particIes,
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Here, Rimuru is not said to destroy Michael's information particles, he just disintegrates Michael's body into information particles.

In addition, since information particles are quantum particles that are indivisible by nature, the term disintegration of information particles cannot be used for Digital Lifeforms whose entire body consists of information particles, so this will only be a disintegration in the context of separating information particles from each other.
 
CodeCCLL said:
Here, Rimuru is not said to destroy Michael's information particles, he just disintegrates Michael's body into information particles.

In addition, since information particles are quantum particles that are indivisible by nature, the term disintegration of information particles cannot be used for Digital Lifeforms whose entire body consists of information particles, so this will only be a disintegration in the context of separating information particles from each other.
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TenSura WN Major Revision - Part 7

Introduction Hello everyone, hope ya'll are doing good. This is the continuation to the previous threads, Part 7 to be exact. This thread, just like Part 4, 5 and 6, is also quite simple and plain, just some minor ability additions and improvement of wording for previously accepted abilities...
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The streak resumes once again 🗿
 
Astral_Trinity439 said:
AIso, I was wondring if you pIan to do any changes Granblue's cosmoIogy due to the new tiering system
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Certain unanswered discrepancies within the game bar it being updated higher such as the Omnipotent's identity being recently questioned by a theory and the fact that it was overtaken when the unchanging principle of providence dictates it cannot be overtaken.
We're just waiting for the main story at this point since those might be answered due to them finally skipping through Estalucia.

The requirement is also strict based on recent threads posted in the tier 1-A above hub
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
Certain unanswered discrepancies within the game bar it being updated higher such as the Omnipotent's identity being recently questioned by a theory and the fact that it was overtaken when the unchanging principle of providence dictates it cannot be overtaken.
We're just waiting for the main story at this point since those might be answered due to them finally skipping through Estalucia.
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I see
TheGreatJedi13 said:
The requirement is also strict based on recent threads posted in the tier 1-A above hub
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WeII, I checked a few scans in its current cosmololgy page when I was free, and was interested in that omnipresent part about true dragons, if thats what they were called, and how they paint the canvas that is the world
 
isn't it time to make Single digit and the rest of primordial a profile? ill start again once I'm finish on my projects
 
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TenSura WN Major Revision - Part 8

Introduction Hello everyone, hope ya'll are doing good. This is the continuation to the previous threads, Part 8 to be exact. This thread, just like Part 4, 5 and 6, is also quite simple and plain, just some minor ability additions and improvement of wording for previously accepted abilities...
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The streak resumes once again after a 3-days break 🗿

Took some time to make this one since College has started :)
 
Sebas-S.P-san said:
When is the profile created for Michael? I would like to see it on the wiki
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Not sure if we have someone making it rn
Im busy with WN Rimuru and the rest of WN
Shiraito is busy with a profiIe for Kondo
Code is prolIy busy with irI matters

And Mizuki mostIy Ieft the wiki

So you gotta wait untiI either me or someone eIse is free for it 🗿
 
 
Shiraito983 said:
@Astral_Trinity439 @CodeCCLL
is this part of Rimuru profile really needed? with the current thread scaling to Carerra would put him into 2-C
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Rimuru_Tempest_(Light_Novel)#Ultimate_Slime:~:text=Beelzebuth will eventually become Planet level, likely Star Level (Beelzebuth, Lord of Gluttony is a combination of Gluttony and Merciless. Rimuru should be able to integrate Beelzebuth into one of his clone that can grow large enough to devour either planets or stars)
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imo no, there was aIready an instance in the side story before VoIume 10 where VeIdora and Rimuru fought, and it was said that veIdora couIdnt deaI a fataI bIow despite trying aII of his attack methods to back up 2-C
As for range.... that can be deIt with as weII
 
I want carrera AP justification to be like this. English is not my first language so double-check it


6-A | at most 2-C, 2-C


Continent level+ (Can create a Gravity Collapse that can destroy the Great Jura Forest. Her fight against Leon would result to the destruction of El Dorado, a continent larger than Australia. As a True Demon Lord, should be comparable, if not higher to Cherub Pulcinella, who can destroy the continent of Atlantis within a fraction of a second) | at most Low Multiverse level (Without Ultimate skill. Carrera, Ultima, and Testarossa can nonetheless inflict physical harm on Velgrynd. Moreover, Velgrynd believed that their cooperation would be effective on Velzard. Although they are not as strong as her, they were able to annihilate her parallel existence as they unleashed an unhinged barrage upon Velgrynd. Each one with maximum force), Low Multiverse level (Abyss Annihilation is magic that far surpasses Gravity Collapse and works on the principle of adding a subspace from the lowest of the hellish Abysses into a Gravitational Force Field, generating an unimaginable amount of destructive energy, that threatens to destroy the planet if not controlled, additionally, Kondo concluded it could even destroy the Dimension and harm Rudra. Using her Ultimate skill, she easily harms Velgrynd)
 
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Shiraito983 said:
I want carrera AP justification to be like this. English is not my first language so double-check it


6-A | at most 2-C, 2-C


Continent level+ (Can create a Gravity Collapse that can destroy the Great Jura Forest. Her fight against Leon would result to the destruction of El Dorado, a continent larger than Australia. As a True Demon Lord, should be comparable, if not higher to Cherub Pulcinella, who can destroy the continent of Atlantis within a fraction of a second) | at most Low Multiverse level (Without Ultimate skill. Carrera, Ultima, and Testarossa can nonetheless inflict physical harm on Velgrynd. Moreover, Velgrynd believed that their cooperation would be effective on Velzard. Although they are not as strong as her, they were able to annihilate her parallel existence as they unleashed an unhinged barrage upon Velgrynd. Each one with maximum force), Low Multiverse level (Abyss Annihilation is magic that far surpasses Gravity Collapse and works on the principle of adding a subspace from the lowest of the hellish Abysses into a Gravitational Force Field, generating an unimaginable amount of destructive energy, that threatens to destroy the planet if not controlled, additionally, Kondo concluded it could even destroy the Dimension and harm Rudra. Using her Ultimate skill, she easily harms Velgrynd)
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No significantly typos. However, the solid 2-C rating should be mentioned in this way. 2-C with Abyss Annihilation and her Ultimate Skill because her primordial magic is still 2-C at most.

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It would also be better if you replace this scan with the actual Light Novel scan.
 
Shiraito983 said:
I want carrera AP justification to be like this. English is not my first language so double-check it


6-A | at most 2-C, 2-C


Continent level+ (Can create a Gravity Collapse that can destroy the Great Jura Forest. Her fight against Leon would result to the destruction of El Dorado, a continent larger than Australia. As a True Demon Lord, should be comparable, if not higher to Cherub Pulcinella, who can destroy the continent of Atlantis within a fraction of a second) | at most Low Multiverse level (Without Ultimate skill. Carrera, Ultima, and Testarossa can nonetheless inflict physical harm on Velgrynd. Moreover, Velgrynd believed that their cooperation would be effective on Velzard. Although they are not as strong as her, they were able to annihilate her parallel existence as they unleashed an unhinged barrage upon Velgrynd. Each one with maximum force), Low Multiverse level (Abyss Annihilation is magic that far surpasses Gravity Collapse and works on the principle of adding a subspace from the lowest of the hellish Abysses into a Gravitational Force Field, generating an unimaginable amount of destructive energy, that threatens to destroy the planet if not controlled, additionally, Kondo concluded it could even destroy the Dimension and harm Rudra. Using her Ultimate skill, she easily harms Velgrynd)
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A bit of grammar improvement
At least Continent level+ (Can use Gravity Collapse, which can destroy the Great Jura Forest. Her fight against Leon would result in the destruction of El Dorado, a continent larger than Australia. As a True Demon Lord, should be comparable, if not superior to, Cherub Pulcinella, who can destroy the entire continent in an instant), At most Low Multiverse level (Before they acquired an Ultimate Skill, Carrera, Ultima, and Testarossa could harm Zegion, whose defenses work just fine against even Ultimate Skills, they could also inflict physical damage on Velgrynd. Moreover, Velgrynd herself believed that their cooperation would be effective on even Velzard, as they could, despite not being as strong as Velgrynd herself, were able to annihilate her parallel existence instantly with an unhinged barrage of their Full Force upon Velgrynd), Low Multiverse level (Via Abyss Annihilation, the greatest and most powerful Magic Attack, surpassing even Gravity Collapse, that works by adding a special Substance into a Gravitaitonal Forcefield, generating a torrent of Energy so extreme that with a single mistake, it can destroy the entire Planet. Kondo assumed it could even destroy the entire Dimension, and came to the conclusion that it could, in fact, result in that. Additionally, after gaining an Ultimate Skill, and with Judgement Bullet, she easily harms Velgrynd)
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PS. should we add the fact that her destroying the pIanet was in context to the cardinaI worId, which even MiIim couldnt destroy even whiIe SatanaeI was active?
 
Astral_Trinity439 said:
should we add the fact that her destroying the pIanet was in context to the cardinaI worId, which even MiIim couldnt destroy even whiIe SatanaeI was active?
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I don't think we should, i always found that statament a bit hyperbolic/somewhat weird but even if it wasn't, it is about losing control over that magic as far as i remember and personally i don't like giving a rating in this way.
 
Anyway, did you all see that acasuality 4 is getting revised and possibly removed?

Edit: i'm an idiot
 
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even if it wasn't, it is about losing control over that magic as far as i remember and personally i don't like giving a rating in this way.
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It couId work as environmentaI destruction tho, pretty sure many characters get their highest tier with that
 
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Anyway, did you all see that acasuality 4 is getting revised and possibly removed?
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If you mean the Aca4 revision recentIy, it wiII prolIy get revised, not removed. There are far too many characters that have that hax, and we cannot simpIy give aII irreguIar systems Aca5 either, so Aca4 has to stay
 
what about rimuru High 6-A. directly scaling to Carrera should be straight to 2-c
well I leave this to you guys along with the scaling chain

High 6-B, Gluttony will eventually become 5-B, likely 4-C | High 6-A, Beelzebuth will eventually become 5-B, likely 4-C, 2-C via summoning of Veldora Tempest and with his Ultimate Skills | 2-C | 2-C | 2-C



Multi-Continent level (Superior to Demon Peer Carrera, who can create a Gravity Collapse that can destroy the Great Jura Forest. Should be comparable to, and fought a serious swordfight with Leon Cromwell, whose fight against the Yellow Primordial would result to the destruction of El Dorado, a continent larger than Australia. As a True Demon Lord, should be comparable to to the Cherub Pulcinella, who can destroy the continent of Atlantis within a fraction of a second. With his aura alone, he disintegrated Gaiye, who could give Carrion and Frey trouble. Has since gotten far stronger due to his Food Chain skill, as the stronger his subordinates get, the stronger he gets.[82] Massively upscales above the likes of Awakened Demon Lord, as plenty of his subordinates have reached the level of True Demon Lord), Beelzebuth will eventually become Planet level, likely Star Level (Beelzebuth, Lord of Gluttony is a combination of Gluttony and Merciless. Rimuru should be able to integrate Beelzebuth into one of his clone that can grow large enough to devour either planets or stars), Low Multiverse level (Via summoning of Veldora Tempest. Ultimate Skill users can put its effects into their magic, punch and kick and can even harm a True Dragon by a little.[83] Furthermore, those who have an Ultimate Skill are not bound by the laws of the world, same as True Dragons and they even have the potential to destroy Velgrynd's Split Body)
 
Shiraito983 said:
what about rimuru High 6-A. directly scaling to Carrera should be straight to 2-c
well I leave this to you guys along with the scaling chain

High 6-B, Gluttony will eventually become 5-B, likely 4-C | High 6-A, Beelzebuth will eventually become 5-B, likely 4-C, 2-C via summoning of Veldora Tempest and with his Ultimate Skills | 2-C | 2-C | 2-C




Multi-Continent level (Superior to Demon Peer Carrera, who can create a Gravity Collapse that can destroy the Great Jura Forest. Should be comparable to, and fought a serious swordfight with Leon Cromwell, whose fight against the Yellow Primordial would result to the destruction of El Dorado, a continent larger than Australia. As a True Demon Lord, should be comparable to to the Cherub Pulcinella, who can destroy the continent of Atlantis within a fraction of a second. With his aura alone, he disintegrated Gaiye, who could give Carrion and Frey trouble. Has since gotten far stronger due to his Food Chain skill, as the stronger his subordinates get, the stronger he gets.[82] Massively upscales above the likes of Awakened Demon Lord, as plenty of his subordinates have reached the level of True Demon Lord), Beelzebuth will eventually become Planet level, likely Star Level (Beelzebuth, Lord of Gluttony is a combination of Gluttony and Merciless. Rimuru should be able to integrate Beelzebuth into one of his clone that can grow large enough to devour either planets or stars), Low Multiverse level (Via summoning of Veldora Tempest. Ultimate Skill users can put its effects into their magic, punch and kick and can even harm a True Dragon by a little.[83] Furthermore, those who have an Ultimate Skill are not bound by the laws of the world, same as True Dragons and they even have the potential to destroy Velgrynd's Split Body)
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Yeah this seems fine, shouId be straight up 2-C
In fact, even tho we give other US hoIders 2-C, the profiIe is giving IikeIy 4-C to beeIzebuth, despite it being one of the high-end UItimate skiIIs.
 
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Introduction Hello everyone, hope ya'll are doing good. This is the continuation to the previous threads, Part 9 to be exact. This thread, just like Part 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8, is also quite simple and plain, just some minor ability additions and improvement of wording for previously accepted...
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With this, I have crossed the 700+ references and 800+ linked scans on the sandbox 🗿
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@Meli_Tempest @CodeCCLL @Sebas-S.P-san @Shiraito983
 
i really think possibly would suit more than a solid 2-C on Ultimate skill user unless they are shown to harm true dragon themselves since its says Potentially
 
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i really think possibly would suit more than a solid 2-C on Ultimate skill user unless they are shown to harm true dragon themselves since its says Potentially
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I wouId say give the sin series and angeIic series, aka the soIid UItimate skiIIs, and the fuII-fIedged uItimate skiIIs a soIid rating, and give the UItimate gifts a possibIy one, due to the difference in performance
 
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