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At this point in the championship it's easier to say what skills Rimuru doesn't have, the only one I can think of is plot manipulation, the only skill he doesn't have, and it's very likely that at the end of the light novel he will win that
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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20
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Astral_Trinity439
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Pretty much, aIthough not in In, but I found pretty much everything eIse in WN, incIuding dimensionaI manipuIation, text manipuIation, HDE, BDE, etc etc
I think the onIy other exception couId be Mathematics Manip
After re-reading aII the 226 abiIites avaiIabIe on the powers and abiIites page, I couId see him having at Ieast 210. He currentIy onIy has 130~ abiIites in his WN profiIe, most of which are descriptionIess
The onIy things I couIdnt find were the ones I mentioned above, and the Cartoonish abiIites, such as Toon Force and Broadway Force
Im making a description for him on every other abiIity, in aIphabeticaI order, which aII my revisions are based on. CurrentIy, the sandbox has just finished the I/i aIphabetic part. So around 108 out of 111~112 abiIities tiII the i/I section have been found. The missing ones are Anti-Matter manipuIation, Broadway Force, Cyborganization, and Dream ManipuIation
I might find dream manip Iater, but the first three are just impossibIe given its IiteraIIy a fantacy setting with no toon force
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If you forget the NEP 2 nonsense, I'll give you(s) the wiki's most versatile anti-matter manipulation.
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Anti-Matter Manipulation makes even less sense than NEP 2.
CodeCCLL
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We will take an negative energy (similar like anti-energy) manipulation where we link to the anti-matter manipulation.
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If you have even a basic understanding of what antimatter is, you will notice the difference with [Negative Existence Value] at a glance.
They are so different in properties, principles and fundamentals that to relate them is absurd.
CodeCCLL
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One day you will realize that the parts of fiction that refer to real life do not necessarily mean identifying with real life.
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I dont think I wiII be trying for NEP2 physiology for Rimuru
but Holy Spirits and Great Holy Spirit wouId naturaIIy have that
I might try for NEP2 interaction for Turn NuII, tho, but prolIIy in one of the Iast part, Revision Part 18~20 maybe
We have argued over this many times before, Code. You and I both know Anti-Matter is a physicaI thing, not something Concept-destroying. AIso, forget the Negative Energy shit, the Raws caII it outright Nothingness and Negative Existence vaIue, how more obvious do they need to get that its IiteraIIy Nonexistence -_-
In around the 15+ aIternatives provided by the transIator, there was not a singIe anti-matter reIated transIation, aII of them were Iike Void, NihiIity, NihiIism, etc etc
If you reaIIy want to use the term SimiIar, then at that point you are just saying Void Manip and Anti-Matter manip are simiIar
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I completely agree with that.
However you forget one important point, the ability in the fictional verse must resemble it enough to classify it as such.
The [Negative Existence Value] is blatantly more like a Void than antimatter with which it shares no properties beyond annihilating matter.
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ExactIy. Even more so, Negative Existence is IiteraIIy just Nonexistence at that point even from the name
CodeCCLL
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Just look at the preliminary description of the Nihilistic Banish and Nihilistic Hazard attacks.
en.wikipedia.org
Or just wait.
Annihilation - Wikipedia
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Anti-matter is something physicalJust look at the preliminary description of the Nihilistic Banish and Nihilistic Hazard attacks.
Or just wait.Annihilation - Wikipedia
Anti-matter is not a void, there is no such thing as a void in physics.
Anti-matter generates energy
Anti-matter are particles with opposite charge which is not always negative.
Anti-Matter results from the collision of particle beams at high energies.
etc
God, they are nothing alike.
How can you classify an ability as antimatter that does not meet any of the requirements to be antimatter?
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Damn I study things like this. The basic description of the phenomenon is not enough because even this is different from what we see in the verse.
Nihilistic Hazard annihilates everything by returning it to 0, does not generate energy (notable difference with anti-matter) and above all it is not always negative energy. There are anti-particles with positive energy, which goes against the description of the ability, which is described as [Negative existence value].
Antimatter has the exact opposite value, resulting in the result that upon collision, the result is 0.
However this process produces photons and energy, the difference is obvious.
In addition to not meeting any of the characteristics of antimatter that I already listed.
Nihilistic Hazard annihilates everything by returning it to 0, does not generate energy (notable difference with anti-matter) and above all it is not always negative energy. There are anti-particles with positive energy, which goes against the description of the ability, which is described as [Negative existence value].
Antimatter has the exact opposite value, resulting in the result that upon collision, the result is 0.
However this process produces photons and energy, the difference is obvious.
In addition to not meeting any of the characteristics of antimatter that I already listed.
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Apparently I'm talking completely in vain.
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You can't say an ability is antimatter if it doesn't look enough like antimatter.
That's why every skill on the wiki has certain requirements for a verse skill to qualify as such.
It seems to be me talking in vain.
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Damn it, you really found it
Astral_Trinity439
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The streak won't be stopping soon 
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And, apologies to those who were expecting the next part earlier. Was a bit sick, so had to slow down the speed for 1 extra day. I am still somewhat sick, although a lot better, but the next part will also likely take a day or two more then usual.
Hope everyone reading is healthy as well
Peace.
TenSura WN Major Revision - Part 10
Introduction Hello everyone, hope ya'll are doing good. This is the continuation to the previous threads, Part 10 to be exact. This thread, just like Part 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 is also quite simple and plain, just some minor ability additions and improvement of wording for previously accepted...
And, apologies to those who were expecting the next part earlier. Was a bit sick, so had to slow down the speed for 1 extra day. I am still somewhat sick, although a lot better, but the next part will also likely take a day or two more then usual.
Hope everyone reading is healthy as well
Peace.
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CodeCCLL
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You were supposed to comment in the self-evident Intelligence thread... but whatever.fixed spelling mistakes
The rest seems ok
Also, alternative translations are not typos, profiles were already named the way I wrote them.
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Astral_Trinity439
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Hmm, ic. Well, I searched up the their names and just changed it to their character page name from tensura wiki
CodeCCLL
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Nonduality Type 2 is not an ability that provides non-interaction by itself.
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anyone have vol 19 otl
CodeCCLL
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This scan is a proof to the information particles are textbook immeasurable speed, with the obvious stating that information particles move in temporal coordinates as well as in spatial coordinates.Sooo Vol 19 otl came out, nothing mines immeasurable speed but there is this thing here:
Do you think HDE is possible?
This has nothing to do with HDE, for example, we humans already have temporal coordinates as 3-dimensional beings in the space-time continuum, but the 4th dimension is the entire space-time continuum. We are just one of the uncountable infinite images of the space-time continuum.
Also, what kind of nonsense is it to still talk about HDE after BDE Type 1?
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yeah that is obvious
True, i was a bit confused by "a different coordinate SYSTEM" idk what that means.
Bde1 is okay, i just asked if HDE was involved in some way, regardless if it made sense, i was just corious.
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That would kinda negate the whole point of it since now, you cannot be HDE and BDE at the same time.
Also
TenSura WN Revision - Part 11
Introduction Hello everyone, hope ya'll are doing good. This is the continuation to the previous threads, Part 11 to be exact. This thread, just like Part 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10, is also quite simple and plain, just some minor ability additions and improvement of wording for previously accepted...
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Acausality (Type 4: Has Chosen One, a unique skill that is comparable to a ultimate skill. Ultimate skill users aren't bound by the laws of the world.[2] An attack from someone bound by the Laws of the World[2] will not work against a True Dragon, an ultimate existence akin to an Ultimate Skill user. Causality is included in the Laws of the World[3])
No idea why is this even here but Chosen One is still very weak compared to Ultimate Skills. The difference is like comparing heaven and earth and fighting with it is insanely reckless mentioned in the scan
No idea why is this even here but Chosen One is still very weak compared to Ultimate Skills. The difference is like comparing heaven and earth and fighting with it is insanely reckless mentioned in the scan
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CodeCCLL
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Remove everything based on the phrase "comparable to ultimate skills".
Chosen One's statement is conflicting with feats. I have been advocating from the very beginning that all government officials should resist Chosen One.
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agreed, it should just be removed
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Can Shion's skill be compared to the ultimate skills? I remember Ciel said that her skill could slightly injure Rimuru when he had already transformed into a True Dragon. Maybe I'm wrong.
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No, that is only for her Ultimate Skill. Shion skill is still inferior to Ultimate Skill because Ciel does not allow Shion to upgrade her skill. There shouldn't be anything that will pose a threat to Ultimate Skill user unless you are referring to disintegration magic.
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That's not about her skill but rather Shion's Willpower. It would be more on the side of Acausality Negation via Willpower rather then Acausality itself
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Shion skill is still inferior to Ultimate Skill. I do agree that it should have something to do with her willpower and yes she can get a possible 2C rating from this. However , when Shion was fighting Dagruel, Rimuru was sent out of space and time and I am probably going with the assumption that Ciel probably let her evolve at that time because it is an emergency. So, yeah nothing need to be changed in her profile for now and Rimuru was always restricting Shion's ability to evolve
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No, this means that Shion has become independent of the laws of worlds, possessing a willpower comparable to Ultimate Skill users. If Shion could make anyone subject to law of worlds/acausality system, she would have the acausality negation.
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In this case, the abilities Shion would have would be the following.
- Supernatural Willpower, Empowerment and Acausality (Type 4; Bla bla bla)
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exactly
that's just one of the many possible applications of Negation. I suppose Acausality Type 4 Interaction would fit what I wanted to say more, tho, if there is a thing like that.
Same shit as what she did in WN
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