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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

Dread said:
2-A has been accepted?
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No, of the staff members, only Everything12 showed up and disagreed, then there were no more, even on the topic of abstract existence only Elizha gave any input

I just want one of the threads to end soon so I can give Rimuru BDE quickly
 
Peak said:
No, of the staff members, only Everything12 showed up and disagreed, then there were no more, even on the topic of abstract existence only Elizha gave any input

I just want one of the threads to end soon so I can give Rimuru BDE quickly
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Imao? May I see the CRT? I somehow did not see it
 
Dread said:
Imao? May I see the CRT? I somehow did not see it
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about BDE you say? I typed it confusingly, but I meant I would make a CRT for this, the only Tensura CRTs I have now are type 1 abstract existence and multiversal+ level
 
Peak said:
No, of the staff members, only Everything12 showed up and disagreed, then there were no more, even on the topic of abstract existence only Elizha gave any input

I just want one of the threads to end soon so I can give Rimuru BDE quickly
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it was just opinions but none had an argument that is enough to cancel
the 2A
 
And I actually mistyped when I said about BDE, but actually I was referring to HDE, since Rimuru is in the imaginary space that is 4D, but I think that BDE would also be valid with the right arguments
 
Peak said:
what I mean is that it is only considered accepted when 2 staff members or more agree with what was shown, which still doesn't happen
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they give their opinions, but even if they disagree if the majority agrees and nobody has valid arguments to disagree they accept it anyway
 
LoganKroos said:
is having a crt for several updates including 2A for rimuru
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Damn,
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Wait I found it. Let me check
 
Peak said:
he can not​
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Volume -15 Question :​
So in Volume -15 Carrera performed a Planetary(5-B) feat .
"It was not a spell that should be used on a planet, but Carrera had no hesitation in unleashing it. It was a spell that, if mis-controlled, could wipe out even the planet."

The question is who are the people that chain scales from it ?
 
Nihility said:
Volume -15 Question :​
So in Volume -15 Carrera performed a Planetary(5-B) feat .
"It was not a spell that should be used on a planet, but Carrera had no hesitation in unleashing it. It was a spell that, if mis-controlled, could wipe out even the planet."

The question is who are the people that chain scales from it ?
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none but Carrera who is the only one who can use abyss annihilation, since she can't destroy the planet without that hax, unlike godtiers who can't trade blows without tons of barriers protecting the planet
 
Peak said:
none but Carrera who is the only one who can use abyss annihilation, since she can't destroy the planet without that hax, unlike godtiers who can't trade blows without tons of barriers protecting the planet
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Sorry Peak but there are several reasons why that answer was probably wrong :
1.The previous tier for WN Top tiers was H-4C which came from Milim Drago Nova being able to harm the celestial gate which tank attacks of this level |
Carrera's abyss annihilation is similar to Drago nova
2.Diablo's LN profile :It is additionally stated that he is comparable to Carrera who can perform 6-A feat with Gravity Collapse indicating that it can be used in scaling .Abyss annihilation and Gravity collapse are pretty much same
3.Rather than Hax it's an energy based destructive magic similar o Milim's Dragon Nova
@Catpija @Thunderian @Zegion what do you guys think ?Can Carrera's Abyss annihilation create a chain for the Primordials ?Or will it be used to Carrera only ?
 
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Nihility said:
Sorry Peak but there are several reasons why that answer was probably wrong :
1.The previous tier for WN Top tiers was H-4C which came from Milim Drago Nova being able to harm the celestial gate which tank attacks of this level |
Carrera's abyss annihilation is similar to Drago nova
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WN shouldn't be assimilated here, mainly because the reasons for each tier in LN is different from WN
Nihility said:
2.Diablo's LN profile :It is additionally stated that he is comparable to Carrera who can perform 6-A feat with Gravity Collapse indicating that it can be used in scaling .Abyss annihilation and Gravity collapse are pretty much same
3.Rather than Hax it's an energy based destructive magic similar o Milim's Dragon Nova
@Catpija @Thunderian @Zegion what do you guys think ?Can Carrera's Gravity Collapse create a chain for the Primordials ?Or will it be used to Carrera only ?
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actually Diablo didn't scale to continental just with that, as it turns out, there was a lot of evidence to put him on the continental level, his being comparable to Carrera served as a complement to the various evidences for him to be continental, I honestly would disagree with statements like "comparable to such a character that can cause x destruction with x hax" because it is not strong evidence, especially in a verse like Tensura that destructive power is not what defines who is superior or inferior. Anyway, none of the primordial demons scale to Carrera's energy other than Guy so that doesn't help much, the statement about Diablo being comparable to Carrera comes from before they woke up as TDL

And before I forget, do statements like abyss annihilation being comparable to Dragon Nova exist in LN?
 
Peak said:
WN shouldn't be assimilated here, mainly because the reasons for each tier in LN is different from WN

actually Diablo didn't scale to continental just with that, as it turns out, there was a lot of evidence to put him on the continental level, his being comparable to Carrera served as a complement to the various evidences for him to be continental, I honestly would disagree with statements like "comparable to such a character that can cause x destruction with x hax" because it is not strong evidence, especially in a verse like Tensura that destructive power is not what defines who is superior or inferior. Anyway, none of the primordial demons scale to Carrera's energy other than Guy so that doesn't help much, the statement about Diablo being comparable to Carrera comes from before they woke up as TDL

And before I forget, do statements like abyss annihilation being comparable to Dragon Nova exist in LN?
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Nope what I was trying to say is that they're energy based attacks rather than Hax .Well not that it matters much though Diablo and Ultima have Planetary hax too (Nihilistic hazard which Gadra learnt from them )
I was worried because Testarossa would fall behind too much since she doesn't have any planetary abilities /feats .
 
Nihility said:
Nope what I was trying to say is that they're energy based attacks rather than Hax .
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I see, well I honestly still disagree for the reasons I said above, but i understand what you mean
Nihility said:
Well not that it matters much though Diablo and Ultima have Planetary hax too (Nihilistic hazard which Gadra learnt from them )
I was worried because Testarossa would fall behind too much since she doesn't have any planetary abilities /feats .
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I don't think you need to worry about that, it's implied that all primordial demons can use that manipulation of the void, especially considering that it's an energy that comes from hell itself and it's a demonic magic, among other factors, so I think all primordials should be at least 5-B, Testarossa doesn't have any good feats but the fact that she was confident in facing Velgrynd in volume 15 after she wakes up and receives an ultimate skill would be one thing, although obviously she wouldn't win, but Testarossa is just as smart and skilled as Diablo, so it should be easy for her to be 5B even without void manipulation
 
Peak said:
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Peak said:
I see, well I honestly still disagree for the reasons I said above, but i understand what you mean

I don't think you need to worry about that, it's implied that all primordial demons can use that manipulation of the void, especially considering that it's an energy that comes from hell itself and it's a demonic magic, among other factors, so I think all primordials should be at least 5-B, Testarossa doesn't have any good feats but the fact that she was confident in facing Velgrynd in volume 15 after she wakes up and receives an ultimate skill would be one thing, although obviously she wouldn't win, but Testarossa is just as smart and skilled as Diablo, so it should be easy for her to be 5B even without void manipulation
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I have a question do u think they'll accept Rimuru's BDE1??
 
Mizuki67 said:
I have a question do u think they'll accept Rimuru's BDE1??
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I actually think that even BDE type 2 can pass with the right arguments and scans, but I can't confirm that because I don't know for sure. If it qualifies, we can have it in the next few days when someone who has the time makes themselves available to create one.
 
BDE type 2 is hardly to get qualified unless you are 1-A (even tho if it is not requirement). Also I am wondering why type 2?
 
Dread said:
BDE type 2 is hardly to get qualified unless you are 1-A (even tho if it is not requirement). Also I am wondering why type 2?
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Same? From the description it seemed to be not that difficult, so BDE type 1 should be easy to get


Type 2 would come from the great spirits that shape all of reality, including space and time, Rimuru is above them and can also live without, so I was hoping we could get something out of that
 
There is a duality of destruction (Great Spriit of Destruction, which destroys dualities) and creation (Great Holy Spirit, which creates dualities) in Tensura. Also, a duality of life and death is stated. The emergence of the Great Spirit of Destruction would end everything, including life and death. Ultimate skills are able to control some duality essence, like acceleration (Velgyrnd) and fixation (Velzard)
 
Bahaha said:
There is a duality of destruction (Great Spriit of Destruction, which destroys dualities) and creation (Great Holy Spirit, which creates dualities) in Tensura. Also, a duality of life and death is stated. The emergence of the Great Spirit of Destruction would end everything, including life and death. Ultimate skills are able to control some duality essence, like acceleration (Velgyrnd) and fixation (Velzard)
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I'm curious now, when is this mentioned?
 
JV_DLS said:
I'm curious now, when is this mentioned?
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in light there are several types of Duality, even in each world there are kind of avatars donating great spirits and no one knows where the originals are, but I'm absolutely sure that these things only exist in Light and not on the web
 
LoganKroos said:
in light there are several types of Duality, even in each world there are kind of avatars donating great spirits and no one knows where the originals are, but I'm absolutely sure that these things only exist in Light and not on the web
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“In nothingness power finds its fill.
That is a holy spirit. The great holy spirit is the source of power.
Among these, light and darkness, the two great spirits.
Who came to exist at the same moment as the world.
But, the world was without form, a ephemeral existence.
Light and shadow, darkness and the light. Two existences that shall never interweave.
One day, the great spirit time was born.
The child of light and darkness.
And thus the world began to move.
The moving world spun, without purpose, around itself.
Inside the flowing currents of life and death,
Earth, Water, Fire, Wind, and Sky–these five great spirits were born.
And since then, these were the great eight spirits.
Until the light consumes the world, erasing darkness,
Until a new spirit is born, erasing all.
Life and death.
Heralding the coming end of the world…”'
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The Great Holy Spirit that made everything and the Spirit of Destruction that will end everything.
The Great Spirits of Light and Darkness
Light and Shadow
Life and Death
 
Peak said:
Same? From the description it seemed to be not that difficult, so BDE type 1 should be easy to get


Type 2 would come from the great spirits that shape all of reality, including space and time, Rimuru is above them and can also live without, so I was hoping we could get something out of that
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that is literally BDE type 1. Nothing new, sorry Peak but I thought something new will come. I have to reject this.
 
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