Tears of the Kingdom Spoilers Thread

[Chariot190]

Daruk's diary. He gave Link some rock roast and bro ******* ate it and Daruk comments on how Link will eat literally anything.

Link being capable of eating rocks is a thing even in BOTW's main timeline, it's not AoC exclusive.

 

[Tyloxtus]

Oh, the Rock Roast yeah, but the cutscene is from AoC.

 

[Chariot190]

Nobody said otherwise dude.

 

[Dalesean027]

I'll calculate this feat on my next day off purely so we can say he has Class K bite strength

 

[Tyloxtus]

Nobody said otherwise dude.

You seemed like you were trying to.

 

[Chariot190]

I said feat, not cutscene did I not?
not that it matters, we treat AoC as tertiary

 

[Hypertornado099]

Bite force is not LS, its a different thing

 

[Chariot190]

Bite force is not LS, its a different thing

And neither is ripping, tearing, crushing things in your grip, and so on.
As I said, LS is the secret "force" category.

 

[Hypertornado099]

And neither is ripping, tearing, crushing things in your grip, and so on.
As I said, LS is the secret "force" category.

Those are pretty similar though, biting is too different. Striking strength is also force but we don't add striking feats to lifting

 

[Chariot190]

Ignoring the fact you're taking a joke too seriously, they aren't. Crushing things in your grip has more in common with crushing things with your bite than it does benching something.

 

[Hypertornado099]

Ignoring the fact you're taking a joke too seriously, they aren't. Crushing things in your grip has more in common with crushing things with your bite than it does benching something.

Any source or something, I'm not an expert in this topic

 

[Dalesean027]

Any source or something, I'm not an expert in this topic

That's literally just the nature of the feat its unavoidable bite force is typically measured in PSI (pounds per Square Inch) of force that's exterted while crushing feats most commonly use the the MPa of whatever is being crushed MPa itself is a measure of the pressure exerted on said object whether it be through tension, shear strength, or compressional strength.

The point is both involving a amount of pressure over a specifc surface area for the feat to be performed. So even though it was literally just a joke you're taking entirely too serious we could in fact yes do a calc to measure the anount of biting force link has to perform said feat and no it wouldn't be a LS rating that scales to the rest of his body it can be mentioned in say his AP for the PSI of his bite force and be absolutely usable. Either way though crushing does indeed have more common with biting feats than feats of people benching shit

 

[Hypertornado099]

That's literally just the nature of the feat its unavoidable bite force is typically measured in PSI (pounds per Square Inch) of force that's exterted while crushing feats most commonly use the the MPa of whatever is being crushed MPa itself is a measure of the pressure exerted on said object whether it be through tension, shear strength, or compressional strength.

The point is both involving a amount of pressure over a specifc surface area for the feat to be performed. So even though it was literally just a joke you're taking entirely too serious we could in fact yes do a calc to measure the anount of biting force link has to perform said feat and no it wouldn't be a LS rating that scales to the rest of his body it can be mentioned in say his AP for the PSI of his bite force and be absolutely usable. Either way though crushing does indeed have more common with biting feats than feats of people benching shit

Ok

Ignoring the fact you're taking a joke too seriously, they aren't. Crushing things in your grip has more in common with crushing things with your bite than it does benching something.

Does Link have better lifting feats in TOTK he didn't get in BOTW?

 

[CrackerVolley]

Does Link have better lifting feats in TOTK he didn't get in BOTW?

I honestly wouldn't be shocked that Ultrahand would qualify for a better LS feat than Magnesis considering you can just stuck a bunch of massive objects together and lifting that, opposed to only being able to lift one massive object in BotW.

 

[Dalesean027]

He Class M LS feats in both

 

[Chariot190]

I honestly wouldn't be shocked that Ultrahand would qualify for a better LS feat than Magnesis considering you can just stuck a bunch of massive objects together and lifting that, opposed to only being able to lift one massive object in BotW.

It does, the issue is though, getting the cap. Because I don't think there is a cap. Like in theory, you could probably go around Hyrule and systematically fuse every block, boulder, metal, whatever the **** together, and lift it.

It's hilariously deep into Class M easy was watching a stream yesterday where funny pizza man fused like 15 blocks, just who the **** wants to get the theoretical limit?

 

[CrackerVolley]

I'm pretty sure the cap is 30ish Ultrahand globs

 

[Chariot190]

You sure? If so, we can just cheat and find the end result by taking the heaviest lone object he can fuse, and multiplying by 30 (Excluding unique objects that obviously you wouldn't be able to fuse 30 of, like the huge ass blocks in that one shrine you put through holes).

In which case, At least 11440.59 tonnes for ultrahand from just mass based on the big boy steel blocks I'd think?
(But in theory, you could lay them flat and place more on the blocks and lift them anyway if you balance shit even if they aren't fused so like...)

 

[Chariot190]

Looked into it, limit is 21, so 8008.413t.
Though you could easily just stack and balance shit and lift it without needing to fuse them together so the ultrahand lift limit could be several times this anyway.

 

[Tyloxtus]

No, that could actually work. Fits the theme of Link needing to get WAY stronger, too.

 

[Tyloxtus]

Something I just thought of, do we assume the Blights have max scaling, or minimum? Blights grow massively in HP depending on how many Blights have already been killed.

 

[Dalesean027]

Something I just thought of, do we assume the Blights have max scaling, or minimum? Blights grow massively in HP depending on how many Blights have already been killed.

The blights are just low 7-B

 

[Tyloxtus]

Yeah but that wasn't the question

 

[Dalesean027]

Yeah but that wasn't the question

I literally told you where they scale they'd be low 7-B while calamity ganon will be 7-B that should answer whether its max or not

 

[Dust_Collector]

Something I just thought of, do we assume the Blights have max scaling, or minimum? Blights grow massively in HP depending on how many Blights have already been killed.

How much HP they have doesn't really matter, HP is just a gameplay thing that we can't really rate.

 

[Tyloxtus]

It matters a lot how far into Low 7-B their Durability is.

 

[Dalesean027]

It matters a lot how far into Low 7-B their Durability is.

We already have a calc for it you know this, its on the verse page

 

[Tyloxtus]

Scaling above a calced feat is a thing.

 

[Lou_change]

Scaling above a calced feat is a thing.

I don’t think it is acknowledged in universe so we might not be able to use it

 

[Hypertornado099]

Link struggles to pull a stone object out of the adhesive substance that covered the Zora's Domain but can lift houses

 

[Chariot190]

Correct

 

[Dust_Collector]

Scaling above a calced feat is a thing.

Yeah but we can't use HP to scale them, like how would that even work?

 

[Hypertornado099]

Ganondorf scales below a splash fruit because he only does 2 hearts of damage

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Ganondorf scales below a bomb flower because he only does 2 hearts of damage

^

 

[TheGatememer]

So, is the Post-Trial of the Sword Master Sword still going to be Low 7-B? Since CG is going to be that tier it seems

 

[Chariot190]

BOTW Master Sword is stinky, even at the alleged "max power". So yeah probably.

 

[TheGatememer]

I still think it should be 6-C, but okey

 

[Chariot190]

It would if BOTW didn't come after the funny meme statement and the game took place a billion years later (meaning the MS could have easily lost juice, and the "final" version of the MS in BOTW is based on what they knew it's max power to be, which is now confirmed to be not at all its max potential).

Atm all it has is a confirmed canon power sliding scale that applies even when it's at its alleged usual power, confirmed to be kinda ass, was destroyed and only had 100 years to juice it back up with said post-healing being confirmed nowhere near normal power, a handful of shiekah juicing it up (who from what we can gleam off TOTK, are absolutely not on the same level as actual sages), and being comparable to what is essentially ganon's leakage who's feats cap out at like 7-B.

ToTK essentially gaslit BOTW into being dogshit, and due to the placement and when the game came out, it can't even mooch off the travesty that is Vaati.
Basically trading 6-C BOTW for 5-A ToTK as most of what enables 5-A to not be an outlier, also kills BOTW.

 

[Dust_Collector]

Calamity Ganon being the nerfed dirahreea of Ganondorf that can't even handle it's own existence without going insane was already embarrassing, but also scaling below Vaati of all people is a fate worse than death

 

[TheGatememer]

To be fair, Calamity Ganon is the Phantom Ganon of an insanely amped Ganondorf