Strongest to Weakest Super Saiyan Blue Forms

[The_Calaca]

What? Do you know what an outlier is?

 

[Peter1129]

That is an outlier.

...wat? Do you even know what outlier means?

 

[SomebodyData]

Wow lmao, but its not an outlier for the manga even after its been misconstrued to 3-A

 

[JohnCenaNation]

What? Do you know what an outlier is?

Yes. Anime BOG Goku is not universe level and that is a fact. Not only Goku couldn't destroy the universe with his own power. But he needs to combine his power with Beerus to do so, and Beerus was holding back.

 

[Peter1129]

Goku has reactive power lvl. He was already high end 3-B before he improved and eventually became 3-A as a SSG in the BoG Saga.

 

[SomebodyData]

Beerus is literally just producing 1/2 of the energy in a clash Be

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Wow lmao, but its not an outlier for the manga even after its been misconstrued to 3-A

Because Old Kai in the manga mentioned the entire universe is in japardy whereas in the anime Old Kai mentioned they can only destroy the universe over time through colleteral damage. In otherwords, in the manga if they wanted to, both Beerus and Goku could have one-shotted the entire universe.

 

[SomebodyData]

Bruh again in the same scan you posted Old Kai mentions they'll destroy it at an unknown rate

Collateral damage >>>>>> Main objective

 

[Huesito88]

And it was stated that Goku rose his power to match restricted Beerus power and mimick his movement exactly to nullife the effects of the wave (until they did a beam clash)

 

[The_Calaca]

And SSB is even stronger than SSG and that's without Kaio-Ken. Later he becomes Low 2-C which is far higher than any 3-A.

 

[Peter1129]

By the end of the Super anime Goku's base form alone is above his ToP Pre-UIS SSBKK by an unquantifiable amount.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

And it was stated that Goku rose his power to match restricted Beerus power and mimick his movement exactly to nullife the effects of the wave (until they did a beam clash)

That's still doesn't prove anime BoG SSG Goku is universe level. Old Kai stated they can destroy the entire universe with 3 punches. Colleteral damage over time. Third punch does not connect, instead we get a beam struggle and nothing happens to the universe. Outlier.

>Zero feats that proves BoG SSG Anime Goku can destroy the universe,

>Vague statements that was proven invalid later on.

Moving on.

 

[Huesito88]

Nothing happens to the Universe because Beerus nullifed Goku's kamehameha wave, his own attack, and the waves before it could destroy the universe.

 

[The_Calaca]

Eh.. no. That's not how outlier works.

If they can destroy the universe in 3 punches those 3 punches are powerful enough to destroy 1/3 of the universe each. That's massively bigger than any Manga feat and it's borderlining 3-A.

And that's not even an outlier but I think we're just banging our heads against a brick wall (yeah, TFS reference).

 

[Peter1129]

Do you even know what outlier means? Cause I'm pretty sure you don't. Becoming 3-A by improving from high end 3-B isn't an outlier.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Nothing happens to the Universe because Beerus nullifed Goku's kamehamea wave, his own attack, and the waves before it could destroy the universe.

Kamehameha >>>>> regular punch.

Are you insisting that a Ki on Ki collosion is weaker than fist bumb?

 

[The_Calaca]

It clearly isn't. That's why Beerus nullified the whole thing before the universe explodes.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Eh.. no. That's not how outlier works.
If they can destroy the universe in 3 punches those 3 punches are powerful enough to destroy 1/3 of the universe each. That's massively bigger than any Manga feat and it's borderlining 3-A.

1/3 universe isn't a universe. That's still Multi-Galaxy+ level, because the entire universe isn't destroy. That's like saying Omega Shenron is Universe level, because he can destroy the universe over time, and can't one-shot. The situation between the two isn't any different.

And that's not even an outlier but I think we're just banging our heads against a brick wall (yeah, TFS reference).

 

[Huesito88]

Lmao yes there was. At first it was five punches (2.5 with Beerus) but then they giot another boost that would have one shot

 

[JohnCenaNation]

It clearly isn't. That's why Beerus nullified the whole thing before the universe explodes.

He didn't nullify. He cancel it out with an equal force of attack which is no different from you having a fist bump.

 

[SomebodyData]

Now im pretty sure youre purposely ignoring "at this rate" from old kai in the manga

I'll be closing this, given you're clearly not listening or even know what outlier is.

 

[The_Calaca]

The energy Goku and Beerus used in one fist clash was nearly baseline 3-A. They are so far in 3-B+ that just a minor powerup is more than enough to put them in 3-A.