Strongest to Weakest Super Saiyan Blue Forms

[JohnCenaNation]

Hello everyone, since Dragon Ball Super manga is coming to an end soon, well for now, we won't be getting anymore Super Saiyan variant transformations, so combining both the anime and manga continuity, I finally decided which one is the strongest to weakest Super Saiyan Blue forms.

1. Perfected Super Saiyan Blue (Evolved)


2. Perfected Super Saiyan Blue (Power Stressed)


3. Perfected Super Saiyan Blue


4. Super Saiyan Blue (Evolved)


5. Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken


6. Super Saiyan Blue (Rage)


7. Super Saiyan Blue


Is this accurate?

 

[SomebodyData]

The anime and manga versions have clearly different levels of power for super Saiyan blue.

As it stands, all the manga variations <<<<< Anime variations

 

[JohnCenaNation]

The anime and manga versions have clearly different levels of power for super Saiyan blue.
As it stands, all the manga variations <<<<< Anime variations

Lol regular Super Saiyan Blue Goku couldn't even beat Fused Zamasu without fusing with Vegeta, yet Perfect Super Saiyan Blue Goku was swapping hands him. Super Saiyan Blue (Evolved) Vegeta couldn't even hurt Jiren, yet Perfected Super Saiyan Blue (Evolved) Vegeta made Jiren bleed. So nope.

 

[Peter1129]

Anime and manga have completely different power lvls. You can't really compare them.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

The manga's coming to an end soon? I thought it would continue past the ToP arc?

 

[JohnCenaNation]

The manga's coming to an end soon? I thought it would continue past the ToP arc?

Chapter 41 covered both episodes 129 and 130. So it would make sense chapter 42 would cover the last episode.

 

[The_Calaca]

Manga PL <<< Anime PL.

You can argue about Perfect Blue fighting Merged Zamasu but that Zamasu isn't 3-A such as Anime Merged Zamasu. AMZ would stomp Manga Vegito Blue.

 

[Peter1129]

Anime BoG Saga SSG Goku alone can probably beat Manga Vegito Blue. Anime Fusion Zamasu is overkill.

 

[The_Calaca]

He totally does.

BoG SSG Goku solos Manga Super.

 

[Peter1129]

Well except for the top tiers like the Angels and Grand Priest since even in the manga the GoDs are supposedly capable of destroying the universe. Anime BoG Saga SSG Goku is only a bit above baseline 3-A from what I remember.

 

[The_Calaca]

Well that's correct. But still Infinite Zamasu solos.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Chapter 41 covered both episodes 129 and 130. So it would make sense chapter 42 would cover the last episode.

Well yeah, but why would it stop there? The mangaka doesn't get his info from the anime, he gets it from Akira himself.

 

[Peter1129]

Well that's correct. But still Infinite Zamasu solos.

Zeno is still a thing though. But yeah Anime Infinite Zamasu solos everybody but Zeno in the manga.

 

[The_Calaca]

IDK the current rating for Manga Zeno so I'm not sure. I don't think it's 2-C as the anime counterpart.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

He totally does.
BoG SSG Goku solos Manga Super.

God-like Saiyan Goku would have to have a word with you.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Manga PL <<< Anime PL.
You can argue about Perfect Blue fighting Merged Zamasu but that Zamasu isn't 3-A such as Anime Merged Zamasu. AMZ would stomp Manga Vegito Blue.

How? SSJB Goku and SSJB Vegeta couldn't even touch him in the manga, and anime Merged Zamasu died to a SSJ2 opponent.

 

[Peter1129]

Manga BoG Saga SSG Goku is somewhere around 3-B. Anime BoG Saga SSG Goku was high end 3-B and eventually became 3-A if I remember correctly.

Anime Fusion Zamasu died to Super Saiyan Rage Trunks who was already Future Trunks Saga SSB Lvl on top of being amped by the Spirit Bomb. Not to mention he was also probably also weakened by Vegito Blue.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

IDK the current rating for Manga Zeno so I'm not sure. I don't think it's 2-C as the anime counterpart.

Explain to me how did Future Zeno wiped out the entire future timeline in the manga if he wasn't a 2-C?

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Anime BoG Saga SSG Goku alone can probably beat Manga Vegito Blue. Anime Fusion Zamasu is overkill.

Manga Vegito is equal to Beerus for your information.

 

[The_Calaca]

You do realize Goku's base form in the manga is equal to BoG SSG just like in the anime, right?

Said form is 3-B at most while Anime SSG is 3-A.

How? SSJB Goku and SSJB Vegeta couldn't even touch him in the manga, and anime Merged Zamasu died to Future Trunks who is only equal to SSJB Goku and SSJB Vegeta.

That means that both Manga Goku and Vegeta are 3-B too while Anime SSJRage Trunks is 3-A with the asspull.

Explain to me why did Zeno wiped out the entire future timeline in the manga if he wasn't a 2-C?

Zeno took care of Zamasu in the manga. He's probably 2-C but Manga Zamasu never became Infinite like Anime Zamasu. He just started to clone himself and became a one/two-man army. Zeno wiped out the timeline and that's probably 2-C but I'm not sure. Zeno and the GoDs are probably the only ones power related to the anime counterparts. Goku, Vegeta and Zamasu are 3-B at most and that includes Vegito unless you take Shin's statement into consideration which put Vegito roughly equal to Beerus.

 

[The_Calaca]

And post once. It's hard to follow every single one of your answers if you multi-post them.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Manga BoG Saga SSG Goku is somewhere around 3-B. Anime BoG Saga SSG Goku was high end 3-B and eventually became 3-A if I remember correctly.
Anime Fusion Zamasu died to Super Saiyan Rage Trunks who was already Future Trunks Saga SSB Lvl on top of being amped by the Spirit Bomb. Not to mention he was also probably also weakened by Vegito Blue.

Super Saiyan Rage is Super Saiyan 2.

 

[Peter1129]

How does that image prove his SS Rage form is his SS2 form? And also feats show that he's Future Trunks Saga SSB Lvl in Super Saiyan Rage whether you like it or not.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

You do realize Goku's base form in the manga is equal to BoG SSG just like in the anime, right?

Said form is 3-B at most while Anime SSG is 3-A.
Me: Even though Goku in the manga shook the entire Universe 7 macrocosm during his fight against Beerus?

How? SSJB Goku and SSJB Vegeta couldn't even touch him in the manga, and anime Merged Zamasu died to Future Trunks who is only equal to SSJB Goku and SSJB Vegeta.

That means that both Manga Goku and Vegeta are 3-B too while Anime SSJRage Trunks is 3-A with the asspull.
Me: No. The power level difference between Perfected Super Saiyan Blue and regular Super Saiyan Blue is similar to Mastered Super Saiyan from Cell Games Saga and regular Super Saiyan from Frieza Saga. It makes no reason for Super Saiyan Anger Future Trunks who is only equal to Super Saiyan Blue Goku to be stronger than Perfected Super Saiyan Goku's level by simply absorbing a Spirit Bomb.

Explain to me why did Zeno wiped out the entire future timeline in the manga if he wasn't a 2-C?

Zeno took care of Zamasu in the manga. He's probably 2-C but Manga Zamasu never became Infinite like Anime Zamasu. He just started to clone himself and became a one/two-man army. Zeno wiped out the timeline and that's probably 2-C but I'm not sure.
Zeno and the GoDs are probably the only ones power related to the anime counterparts. Goku, Vegeta and Zamasu are 3-B at most and that includes Vegito unless you take Shin's statement into consideration which put Vegito roughly equal to Beerus.

Me: That clones you are referring is Infinite Zamasu.

 

[SomebodyData]

>Using noncanon toys as proof

>Unironically saying anime Merged Zamasu gets beat by SSJ2 Trunks

Pretty sure this thread should be moved to fun and games

 

[JohnCenaNation]

>Using noncanon toys as proof
>Unironically saying anime Merged Zamasu gets beat by SSJ2 Trunks

Pretty sure this thread should be moved to fun and games

Well that's what Dragon Ball Wiki says.

https://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Saiyan_Anger

Super Saiyan Anger (ÞÂàÒéÁÒéñÒâñõ║║µÇÆÒéè Süp─ü Saiya-jin Ikari, lit. "Super Saiyan Rage")[1] is a powered up version of Super Saiyan 2. It assumed through the power of intense rage.[2]

 

[The_Calaca]

While Manga Goku and Beerus shook the macrocosm Anime Goku and Beerus threatened to destroy it. In the manga is the same but there's no proved timeframe for that feat and could be done over time unlike Anime where they only needed three punches to do it.

>Difference about SSB and PSSB

That difference doesn't make them 3-A tho.

And you're mixing things up. SSJRage Trunks isn't related to PSSB Goku because Perfect Blue is manga exclusive while Rage Trunks is anime exclusive.

And still Perfect Blue Goku and Vegeta are 3-B so they are indeed inferior to Anime SSG Goku and Rage Trunks scales above him. It's still 3-B vs 3-A.

>Zamasu clone

No it isn't. Infinite Zamasu is the name to the non-corporeal Zamasu which threatened the whole timeline in the anime. Manga Zamasu only started duplicating himself. It's not the same thing just duplicate yourself than becoming one with the universe and time itself.

 

[SomebodyData]

And that wiki is also known for being innaccurate (cough cough multiple super saiyan 4s)

 

[JohnCenaNation]

While Manga Goku and Beerus shook the macrocosm Anime Goku and Beerus threatened to destroy it. In the manga is the same but there's no proved timeframe for that feat and could be done over time unlike Anime where they only needed three punches to do it.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

And that wiki is also known for being innaccurate (cough cough multiple super saiyan 4s)

Just like VS Battles Wiki is?

 

[Peter1129]

And that wiki is also known for being innaccurate (cough cough multiple super saiyan 4s)

Also the use of all statements even the ones that are inconsistent. Non canon information from stuff like the movies. And even incorrect information in some of the profiles such as restrained Cumber being beat back by Prison Planet SSB Goku and Vegeta even though existential seed said they only humored him in the game.

 

[SomebodyData]

There is no timeframe for the manga version, which is why they arent 3-A.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

There is no timeframe for the manga version, which is why they arent 3-A.

> Old Kai outright admitted the entire universe is in jeopardy.

> Claim they aren't 3-A.

Ignorance much?

 

[Peter1129]

There isn't a time frame so it's just 3-B.

 

[The_Calaca]

"The entire universe is in jeapardy." Your reading comprehensive skills needs to improve.

Oh really?

While Manga Goku and Beerus shook the macrocosm Anime Goku and Beerus threatened to destroy it. In the manga is the same but there's no proved timeframe for that feat and could be done over time unlike Anime where they only needed three punches to do it.

Try again.

Even though they are already universe level in base form?

No they aren't.

In the manga, however, it is the mutated/evolved form of Fused Zamasu, which resulted from Future Zamasu's immortality merging Goku Black and Future Zamasu permanently on a cellular level and his Regenerationn going into overdrive.

Again, it's not the same thing becoming one with the universe than just duplicating yourself. Manga Zamasu can do it all he wants but he'll never reach the same state than Anime Zamasu.

 

[SomebodyData]

> Old Kai literally never mentions the timeframe, only saying "at this rate" in the same scan

> Claims that they are 3-A which would mean one punch and therefore no rate

> Calls me ignorant

Okay lol

 

[JohnCenaNation]

There isn't a time frame so it's just 3-B.

Neither there is in the anime.

 

[Peter1129]

There is a time frame in the anime. 2.5 punches will end the universe. And eventually SSG Goku improves to the point where he's 3-A by himself.

 

[SomebodyData]

Lmao yes there was. At first it was five punches (2.5 with Beerus) but then they giot another boost that would have one shot

 

[JohnCenaNation]

There is a time frame in the anime. 2.5 punches will end the universe. And eventually SSG Goku improves to the point where he's 3-A by himself.

That is an outlier.