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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

MrTayman616 said:
Perception based, he sees, understands, uses it. if you wanted to give it an usable timeframe. At most 0.0013 second.
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Ok i just got a brainblast. Either its the sleep deprivation making me go crazy or i just realized something big

like yeah if we assume its perception based, wherein he decides to copy. But unless its a continous stream, the power is still instantly applied on his person right?

Then wouldn't it mean that when the graph is showing the rise of said power, those lines going up should also be in the same timeframe of instant?

Unless each increment on those lines is garou copying?

so when on the graph is garou copying?
 
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ReusedOil said:
Ok i just got a brainblast. Either its the sleep deprivation making me go crazy or i just realized something big

like yeah if we assume its perception based, wherein he decides to copy. But unless its a continous stream, the power is still instantly applied on his person right?

Then wouldn't it mean that when the graph is showing the rise of said power, those lines going up should also be in the same timeframe of instant?

Unless each increment on those lines is garou copying?
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No. Garou sees, understands, copies. that's how it works. it's not instant. Garou is always a step behind, that step gets further more and more because it grows exponentially

Trust me, you won't get anything from there.
 
MrTayman616 said:
No. Garou sees, understands, copies. that's how it works. it's not instant. Garou is always a step behind, that step gets further more and more because it grows exponentially

Trust me, you won't get anything from there.
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i get you. Garou sees, understands, copies. But what is being shown in the graph? After garou copies, how does he obtain the amp? Is it instant or a continous stream that takes time to fully integrate to his body?
 
ReusedOil said:


i get you. Garou sees, understands, copies. But what is being shown in the graph? After garou copies, how does he obtain the amp? Is it instant or a continous stream that takes time to fully integrate to his body?
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Becase Garou continously observes and applies it. He doesn't just copy once, wait a little and do it again. He's continously doing it.
 
ReusedOil said:
So the amps apply instantly on his body? Like for each increment of the line, garou is copying?
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Dunno, probably. At the very least, i don't think we saw a moment where garou needs time to apply it? he observes it and then he does it. nothing complicated
 
MrTayman616 said:
Dunno, probably. At the very least, i don't think we saw a moment where garou needs time to apply it? he observes it and then he does it. nothing complicated
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...so if the amps apply instantly on garou... wouldn't the same go for saitama?

The timeframe then only accounts for the interval for each time garou is able to observe

But if the amps; which the lines signify, are instant, why does saitama match garou's? Ya know, saitama's line, the power that apparently is instantly applied on saitama without having to account for his perception?

Each increment has garou observing, while each increment for saitama is instant.

Am i making sense here?
 
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ReusedOil said:
...so if the amps apply instantly on garou... wouldn't the same go for saitama?

The timeframe then only accounts for the interval for each time garou is able to observe

But if the amps; which the lines signify, are instant, why does saitama match garou's? Ya know, saitama's line, the power that apparently is instantly applied on saitama without having to account for his perception?

Each increment has garou observing, while each increment for saitama is instant.

Am i making sense here?
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no. sleep and come back.
 
ReusedOil said:
Ima just drop an idea here: there was a point in the fight between garou and saitama that the latter started holding back.

Garou said it himself, he somehow is falling behind. Saitama's growth is exponential, and for each copy, the growth rate increased the entire time garou's face met saitama's fist.

...in that timeframe, how much was the gap between garou and saitama? In each copy and subsequent exponential increase, for anyone who believes its higher than a 7x amp, why then does garou still survive a punch despite increasingly being hurt by it?

Because saitama started holding back. Not immediately. Maybe saitama noticed right around when the panels showed the graph.

Garou can only copy it once he sees it and has no way of sensing unspent energy. He would have no way of knowing how much power saitama is actually exerting compared to his full strength

...Until the sneeze, an involuntary action that causes one's muscles to exert at their full potential.

Theres a reason why he is so scared. Saitama spent more effort sneezing, than he would have killing him
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Different verses treat quantitative gaps in strength differently.

Garou has survived gaps in verse before that by our standards would be like thousands or even millions of times.

Being "7x" stronger in certain verses doesn't automatically mean the other person gets stomped.

Saitama wasn't holding back until the sneeze at the very end of the fight.
 
MrTayman616 said:
no. sleep and come back.
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Phoenks said:
Being "7x" stronger in certain verses doesn't automatically mean the other person gets stomped.

Saitama wasn't holding back until the sneeze at the very end of the fight.
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Yeah unless its not only a 7x gap. Garou is getting hurt by increasingly stronger attacks that increases in power exponentially. It didn't matter at a certain point if garou copied him, the gap is always an exponentially increasing higher number.

Is it really THAT unreasonable to assume that instead of garou surviving an attack from a person with an exponentially increasing higher power disparity, Saitama instead at a certain point started holding back?

My interpretation doesnt really contradict anything and even gives a good explanation for garou's reaction to the sneeze, giving it a deeper meaning.
 
MrTayman616 said:
no. sleep and come back.
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Youre saying that Garou's copy amps his stats instantly.

How about saitama's exponential growth? Does it immediately apply on his body? The rise from 9th to the 13th grid for example, its reading saitama's stats as it instantly jumping to that level of power right? Or does it take a bit to fully integrate with his body, making the line rise as time passes by?

How much can time pass if the lines that are reading their stats, are apparently increased instantly?



Unless the increase is on a timer? Like for every 1 sec he receives an amp?
 
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Saitama and Garou has their own growth. He literally stated it. Saitama's fast growth are inherent to his body and emotion.
 
This might be the location of Ghost town/MA battles since Saitama's pinpointed location is in a ghost town and the City Z Branch aren't in the Ghost town. HA knows Saitama's location since they sent their drones there.

Red mark ghost town, the yellow mark is Tatsumaki's twist. Considering the sunset went in the ocean's location(west).
 
ReusedOil said:
How about saitama's exponential growth? Does it immediately apply on his body?
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...What do you even mean by "immediately apply on his body?"? He's getting stronger, which makes his attacks stronger. why is it that complicated?

Think it like : Saitama gets 2 times stronger in one second. 4 times in two second. 8 times in three second. and it goes on over and over. That's really all.
 
MrTayman616 said:
...What do you even mean by "immediately apply on his body?"? He's getting stronger, which makes his attacks stronger. why is it that complicated?

Think it like : Saitama gets 2 times stronger in one second. 4 times in two second. 8 times in three second. and it goes on over and over. That's really all.
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The same way garou's copying immediately applies on his body.

for garou, its like: at 0.0013 garou observes, copies and instantly obtains that power. Not including his perception, no time elapsed between when the copy started, during the process, and when it ended.

My point is, if garou obtaining the power is instant, could the same go for saitama?

Like imagine garou, but remove the 0.0013 variable that he has to observe the phenomenon to copy, and make it automatic. look at what happens to the timeframe: The amp enters his body instantly. No time elapsed.
 
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MrTayman616 said:
If you get stronger, you get stronger. That's really all. There is no "amp enters his body" or anything. your question doesn't makes any sense to me
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By amp entering the body, what I mean is the amount of power being added to the stats, either instantly or a continous stream that takes time to be fully absorbed. I mean power is literally appearing outa nowhere, so im tryna get a timeframe starting from when it appears, to when it ends.

So like if garou's power went from 2 > 4 for example, a continous stream that takes time would be like:
1sec: 2
2sec: 3
3sec: 4
But instant would be:
0sec: 4

If the amp entering the body is on a timer, the stats increasing every 2 seconds:
1sec:2
2sec:
3sec:
4sec:4

If its instant and only needs 0.0013 for garou to observe first:
0.0013: 2
0sec: 4

If it enters the body or is increased by whatever method, INSTANTLY, from 2 > 32
0sec: 2
0sec: 4
0sec: 8
0sec: 16
0sec: 32
 
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Alexander said:
Hey, give me a idea into how Saitama can get a resistance to sealing in the most "Saitama"way
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*enemy uses a power that seals saitama away by making him incompatible with the universe, making reality reject saitama so he cannot exist within it, effectively pushing him outside and in a state of nonexistence

*In the not place outside existence, where there is no saitama for he does not exist, something moves. From the perspective of the universe, where saitama once stood and where presently he does not, an outline emerges. Light bends, creating an illusion as if thin sheets of translucent material is covering an equally invisible person's body. The fabric of reality strains against the shape, yielding before the movement of arms and legs. Saitama is walking forward. The universe knows nothing is happening, yet saitama knows there is a discount where he's going. By the time he reached the store, saitama is back. Saitama was not aware anything happened
 
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