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Ngl some people take it to far, like the people trying to make Withered Sprout Tier 7 based on exactly this scaling.
ONE called him a Dragon, so that's more or less always been his threat rating.
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i feel garou vision is underrated
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And the issue with this scaling is...? She is the leader of the MA bruh
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If the serious punch was galaxy then with exponential growth saitama should be multi galaxy++++++ or no
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Because there's no direct evidence that they destroyed multiple galaxies.
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there is evidence,the lights in the space are not just stars brother (also there is galaxies in the background of IO)
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You would need need to prove galaxies where in the zone and that they were destroyed. It's been brought up before and rejected because there's no evidence for it at the moment.
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the proof is that literally everything in space that is to far away looks like a dut of light,even galaxies look like a dut of light in far away,the assumption that is stars is based around the same thing that could work with galaxies (except that you can see galaxies in the background of jupiter)
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The thing is he was a demon initially and then he would have become a dragon overtime. Meanwhile, monsters like Vaccine Man were outright stated dragon with the first attacks. There is a clear difference between them, and Vaccine Man, as much as it hurts to say it, is in the lower tier of dragons (base CK scales from him and a ton of characters scale to CK or above).
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People always forget that Pre-Molt EC is much weaker than Post-Molt EC. When Psykos was talking about EC, she didn't know how strong he would become POst-molting.
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Yes that’s just how strong exponential growth is
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That's not proof. That's a guess. A likely guess? Maybe, maybe, but not a guarantee, and thus it could never be more than a possibility. Asserting it as a fact is what's wrong.
For reference, there aren't even 10 galaxies that can be seen in the night sky with the naked eye, same with planets. Over 90% of the visible dots in the night sky are stars. Seeing galaxies in the background on IO doesn't REALLY suggest anything. It was just a drawing Murata made for visual effect I doubt it meant anything more than that. It doesn't make sense either way since OPM Earth is confirmed to only be a few centuries ahead of ours iirc so it was just a random thing and can't be used as evidence.
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Yeah that's not wrong. Though in the manga his feats were drastically less impressive. So much so that honestly he wasn't much stronger than start of series Genos.
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The heck...
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Murata said it isn't the HA being destroyed...
Maybe it's one of Empty Void's genjutsus?
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bumping again
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"Hero association in crumbles after this devastating news...."
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I didn't really factor in Post-Molt EC in my criticism of Psykos scalers, it's all based on Pre-Molt EC's durability compared to Bang & Bomb.
You can either scale pre-molt EC's durability above a drained Bomb (since they needed a sustained combo to do major dmg which tired out a fresh Bomb), or downscale it from sleeping Garou w/ Roaring Aura Sky Ripping fist (if it's comparable to base Bang + Bomb's combo). Base Gyoro Gyoro would be at least one, maybe two tiers above drained Bomb or AB Bang depending on where you scale EC. Then full power scales above base Gyoro, base Psykos scales considerably above Full Power Gyoro and elixir Psykos beats base Psykos.
So... Bomb < Pre-molt EC dura < sleeping Garou(?)/Psykos's estimate of Tatsumaki's AP < Platinum S/base Gyoro Gyoro < full power Gyoro Gyoro < base Psykos
Either way, Base Psykos would be at least >>>>> Bomb (who is stronger than like 75% of the s-class) and, if you assume Garou's Roaring Aura is in the same tier as Bang and Bomb's Roaring Aura, you have people arguing base Psykos is 2 to 3 tiers above Platinum S (which would make her stronger than FP Metal Bat and arguably stronger than Sage Centipede).
Basically pre-molt EC scales so high after Bomb+Bang's rematch with Garou, I believe this scaling dramatically overrates Psykos
The scaling rests on Psykos being a trustworthy judge of her own power and Psykos being extremely weakened (like x50, x100 times if you want to put a number on it) by the time she enters her Pskosjet form. I believe she's proven herself to be very biased (to the point of being delusional) about her own strength and find such a maaassive nerf after Tatsumaki twisted her to be unlikely.
While it's no shame to lose to Tatsumaki, Psykos lost to her 4 times in a row in the course of a couple hours but still remained confident in her abilities each time (delusional).
First, base Gyoro Gyoro was cocky it'd beat Tatsumaki and got destroyed.
Then Gyoro Gyoro went full power and was like "haha I'm going to crush you now", only for Tatsumaki to immediately, casually destroy her again.
Then she took the elixir and went "alright now you'll get it Tatsumaki" and then got immediately, casually destroyed a third time.
Then she got her god power-up and was like "Now I am far more powerful than you Tatsumaki!", only for Tatsumaki to be holding back on her still and then twist her to near-death, crushing her a fourth (and kinda) final time.
Basically she terribly overestimated herself/underestimated Tatsumaki four times in the course of the same evening, which is pretty delusional because you think she would have realized she had no idea how strong Tatsumaki was after the second/third consecutive loss. Also, human Psykos doesn't have the screentime to show any feats that show she's like 50X stronger than pre-Molt EC's durability and her only feat is a building-sized lazer eye beam.
But what human Psykos lacks for in feats, she overcompensates for in anti-feats as Psykosjet. Psykosjet struggles with lower-cadre tier S-classes like Drive Knight and Genos who seem to be around Gums/Base Fuhrer Ugly level and gets obliterated by mid-cadre tier s-classes like Atomic Samurai (who completely counters her attack power) and Darkshine. Darkshine in particular straight up knocks her out. You could explain the gigantic gap between being five tiers above Bomb and getting obliterated by Darkshine by her being extremely weakened, but she has Orochi helping her out here so it'd be weird if she was like 100x weaker than before.
So Psykos has a bad-track record scaling herself, has no feats in her supposedly uber strong Elixir-ified state while having many anti-feats in her Psykos-jet state. I think she's more like a mid-dragon in base, maybe high with the elixir.
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Huh?? Is he talking about a re-run of Season 2 you think?
EDIT: Oh this is from 2019 talking about season 2, I see. But why post it then?
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The main issue as well is that the next arc showed that even during the 4th time Tornado was still holding back, since she only went all out on Saitama.
Meaning she got stomped four times by a nerfed Tornado.
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Yeah that's the short of it.
Obviously there's no shame in losing to Tatsumaki, but overestimating yourself four times in a row while repeatedly getting your teeth kicked in? Not a good look for her credibility.
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Definitely a shame if you lose to statuemaki
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never stated in the manga,so it cannot be valid.
unless you want to say that the manga follows the web comic (which it does not do it)
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Opm isn’t even the same as irl even the earth is different as god dimension has partly fused with the earth or something
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"statuemaki" Lmao
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He's referring to the bottle of wine Sonic drinks with his monster cell, it's dated 2990
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Oh you've forgotten he lacks AP.
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Definitely, also the fight with Saitama are not that big of a scale/destructive compared to Psykorochi cause it's only concentrated to the size of human
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POV: Saitama after bumping into Yamcha.
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Flash probably denies God last second "sOnIc WoUld NevEr" or something (though I'm hoping that we see a Cosmic Flashy Flash, I doubt it). Flashy escapes the illusion and sees an extremely injured Sonic on the brink of death protecting him from Empty Void. Saitama and Blast come in and we get the start of Void Vs. Blast which continues into next chapter.
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nope, Murata and One kuck us for another chapter to milk us for as much as we are worth
either we get neo heroes bs, or we shift to another place because this part is getting too hype
