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I completely forgot released boros would change too.

I think we can agree to put him as Unknown instead of at least Supersonic+.
I thought we went over this. There's no point to Unknown when we already have scaling for him
 
I completely forgot released boros would change too.

I think we can agree to put him as Unknown instead of at least Supersonic+.
the damage had already been done
But perhaps boros for his released speed should go like this

Unknown, at least Supersonic+ (Superior to his armored state, possibly relativistic+ (Should be faster or comparable to Geryuganshoop)
 
We went over this for the other key. Not his released key, which has no scaling except to himself.

Also, the only reason that got through was because I was asleep.
 
There absolutely is because it's ridiculously stupid and not remotely indicative of his speed at all in any time, place or existence.
 
ok ok hear me out this might sound ridiculous, but I have a new scaling chain idea for boros

Instead of scaling boros feats to melza, we should scale him to the likes of other cadres such as fuhrer ugly
seeing how boros armored form is somewhat comparable to cadres, we should scale him to comparable to them in speed or scale higher
 
We agreed, with contextual exceptions, not to scale characters' speed just because of disaster rating.
That’s argument from incredulity.
It absolutely isn't. It's a fact that we have no grasp on his speed, and you say this yourself.
I dunno how it’s not indicative of his speed when he has like, zero speed feats.
Good a reason as any to put him at Unknown. We did this for Drive Knight, so that's far more than enough precedent to do it for Boros.
 
I mean Saitama is a huge example of us tiering characters based on whatever information is available even if it doesn’t reflect their uppermost capabilities (in fact I’m pretty sure that’s the whole point of “At least” ratings). Boros being “At least [whatver Melzalgald’s speed is], likely higher” is fine.
 
It absolutely isn't. It's a fact that we have no grasp on his speed, and you say this yourself.
You just said it’s, and I quote, “ridiculously stupid”, which is absolutely an argument from incredulity.
Good a reason as any to put him at Unknown. We did this for Drive Knight, so that's far more than enough precedent to do it for Boros.
Released Boros is faster than Armored Boros, who is faster than Melz, who is Supersonic+. Therefore, At least Supersonic+. You can put a ‘likely higher’ or ‘likely far higher’ on there if you want, but there’s actually no reason to put him at Unknown.
 
Anyway, you 'people' can continue this heresy if you want. But I'm going to stop arguing and continue malding in silence.
I mean Saitama is a huge example of us tiering characters based on whatever information is available even if it doesn’t reflect their uppermost capabilities (in fact I’m pretty sure that’s the whole point of “At least” ratings). Boros being “At least [whatver Melzalgald’s speed is], likely higher” is fine.
Lower limit of capabilities =/= no feats at all.
You just said it’s, and I quote, “ridiculously stupid”, which is absolutely an argument from incredulity.
Which doesn't actually have even the remotest bearing on my argument. My point is not that it's ridiculously stupid, my point is that Unknown is a far better reflection on Released Boros' capabilities. I just called it ridiculously stupid.
Released Boros is faster than Armored Boros, who is faster than Melz, who is Supersonic+. Therefore, At least Supersonic+. You can put a ‘likely higher’ or ‘likely far higher’ on there if you want, but there’s actually no reason to put him at Unknown.
There is. Again, we have precedent for placing characters at Unknown based on such things not being representative of their actual feats. This is absolutely no different, especially since what Drive Knight did was a feat, not scaling.
 
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Technically Boros isn’t entirely featless outside of the moon kick
https://media.**********.net/attachments/852867462680281141/977409113921290250/IMG_5720.png
 
Well, if you’re done arguing, no real point in continuing.

We know what Boros’ lower cap is, so I think his At least Supersonic+ rating is fitting.

Just saying, y’all could probably argue for him to have ‘possibly Relativistic+‘ speed, but y’all didn’t hear that from me.
 
Technically Boros isn’t entirely featless outside of the moon kick
https://media.**********.net/attachments/852867462680281141/977409113921290250/IMG_5720.png
I suppose instead of malding in silence, I'll find some feats to calculate.
 
Technically Boros isn’t entirely featless outside of the moon kick
https://media.**********.net/attachments/852867462680281141/977409113921290250/IMG_5720.png
I got Supersonic+ (malding increases) from just one movement.

If the rocks are falling in real time and not a sort of panoramic, I'm sure the results will be far higher.
 
Question, why isn’t Melzargard mhs for blitzing bang?
He only caught Bang by surprise while Bang was distracted. Melz was getting Blitz by almost every other characters in the fight. Even characters slower than Bang
 
Because Bang, PPP and everyone's grandpa/grandma blitzed a fully fused Melz, who's faster than just a single body.

Melz only took him off guard after Bang killed one body.
 
Yeah but off guard or not doesn’t matter cuz a supersonic+ just can’t even land on an off guard MHS
 
PPP later on blitzed Melzy many times before he could react.
The logic we currently present on the pages are Melzy > Sky King = Sea King >= PPP > Melzy??? It makes no sense. I've read the alien arc dozens of times for the past couple of months and every S Class member that comes across Melzy blitzes the poor dude.

He shouldn't scale to Bang either because he was holding back and even perception blitzed him earlier.

As a side note it's stated that Iaian was toying with his enemy and was noticeably blitzing Melzy while fighting him. Only having his arm taken off due to getting caught off guard and likely toying around.
 
Yeah but off guard or not doesn’t matter cuz a supersonic+ just can’t even land on an off guard MHS
Y-yeah, it can. If you’re not paying attention, you can 100% get hit by something vastly slower than you.
 
Bang wasn't even in good condition and was holding back.

All the factors in this situation suggest that's what happened (as much as I wished Melz was High Hypersonic, or something).
 
It’s the equivalent to an athlete getting hit by a snail, and no, this is not an exaggeration.
Not to bring up other verses, but I read a comic earlier today where an MFTL+ character got tagged by a Hypersonic+ character so like-
 
On another note, Flash in Zach Snyder's Justice League is an amazing example.
 
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