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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

Emirp sumitpo said:
The ship is easily more durable than anything on the planet? It's able to take in 6-A to High 6-A force (Depending on which calc is chosen. Either way, it's high end Tier 6) And CSRC is an attack that's far stronger than anything else Boros is capable. Comparing to a weaker attack from him isn't fair at all.

That second has no backing to it. The text explicitly mentions the beam will wipe out the planet surface. Not through any sort of chain reaction.
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CSRC has enough heat to “scorch the earth” yet doesn’t scotch the city right below it nor the ship it’s literally touching?

Hell, a much weaker Released Boros set a large part of the ship on fire.
 
I also don't see how Psykos scales to Orochi because she resists having her mind taken over by him. That doesn't seem like AP related, at least to me.
 
AtomicSekiro said:
It’s a basic aura. Literally just a glow.
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Her basic auras are not even visible.
AtomicSekiro said:
Why wouldn’t absorption scale to strength?
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Why would it? The rate of absorption didn't even visibly change while Psykos was supposedly resisting.
AtomicSekiro said:
That’s because Tatsumaki was on guard against Psykos. Orochi snuck attack her while she was on the phone.
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Tatsumaki hardly even put up more than a glow. Also, she was fighting Psykos both offensively and defensively.

It's not based on 'guard', it's based on focusing abilities on different aspects.
 
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ByAsura said:
Her basic auras are not even visible.

Why would it? The rate of absorption didn't even visibly change while Psykos was supposedly resisting.

Tatsumaki hardly even put up more than a glow. Also, she was fighting Psykos both offensively and defensively.

It's not based on 'guard', it's based on focusing abilities on different aspects.
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They are. This is just a basic aura. Not a barrier or high powered aura.

Because physical strength can resist absorption, see; Saitama. She was TOYING with Psykos but was on guard.

Wrong. She was on guard. When she defeated Psykos, she lowered her power and simply held her in place, believing the fighting was over.
 
AtomicSekiro said:
They are. This is just a basic aura. Not a barrier or high powered aura.
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I'm not taking your word for this.
AtomicSekiro said:
Because physical strength can resist absorption, see; Saitama.
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When does he resist absorption? Or are you referring to his willpower being too high for Tatsumaki to manipulate his chi in the webcomic?
AtomicSekiro said:
She was TOYING with Psykos but was on guard. Wrong. She was on guard.
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Again, guard has very little actual relevance. Also, she was on guard, which is why there's a barrier part-way through the explosion.
AtomicSekiro said:
When she defeated Psykos, she lowered her power and simply held her in place, believing the fighting was over.
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What you're saying here makes even less sense. She's manhandling and twisting Psykos' body here, so she'd be using quite a bit of power.
 
Cryo123 said:
That's pretty much the same thing...
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Let me give you two example with a log of wood :

If you scorch your log, you will only char its surface.
If you incinerate your log, you will burn it, turn it to ashes.

People usually don't make the distinction between scorching and incinerating because if you throw your log into a a fireplace for example, the scorching will take place first, then it will get incinerated after all the water inside it got evaporated. (So the two are related, but not the same)
 
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Im confused, this the new volume cover? but then what's the other volume cover lol.
murata hit us with a milfs and dilfs cover
 
Would it be safe to assume Saitama is at least twice as fast as Garou? Or do we not upscale on the wiki like that.
 
Magmag said:
thats not how it works on this wiki pretty sure but any normal person could comprehend saitama is hundreds of times quicker than garou.
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Yeah I just think it's strange to think Garou is still 4C when he went from mhs to 4c in a matter of seconds and still is evolving.
 
Quangotjokes said:
Yeah I just think it's strange to think Garou is still 4C when he went from mhs to 4c in a matter of seconds and still is evolving.
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i mean every single transformation hes going through neg diffs the previous one stats wise so yeah hes really high up now.
 
Quangotjokes said:
Tbh if we'd scaled speed the way black clover scales speed Garou would be FTL+ rn
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Doesn't black clover have characters that state they're using double of their power or something specific like that? Garou has no specific amount to use so he just gets unquantifiably stronger unlike black clover which have a definitive basis to scale speed.

Correct me if I'm wrong though since I'm not that well versed with black clover in general.
 
SemiRaedi said:
Doesn't black clover have characters that state they're using double of their power or something specific like that? Garou has no specific amount to use so he just gets unquantifiably stronger unlike black clover which have a definitive basis to scale speed.

Correct me if I'm wrong though since I'm not that well versed with black clover in general.
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Not too sure, only thing I've ever seen was Julius launch light twice the speed of light. Idk how they got uo to 20c though.
 
Kachon123 said:
So far, 710.246 Zettatons/5-B end is accepted by a singular CGM. We need more input though from Calc Group Members.
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That's neat.

For my part : I just finished calculating the energy blast Released Boros's used against Saitama.

Since this feat is not ambiguous for the temperature. Being the source of "vaporizing the bones of any normal creature" and incinerating/melting down a portion of Boros' ship, I used the 784 million °C.

I will post it soon. This doesn't surpass the current scaling we use for Released Boros, but this is a good supportive feat either way. It could also (maybe) up Boros' ship durability, and hence Restricted Boros.
  • (The low-end is 12.344 Petatons, the high-end is 38.369 Petatons)
 
This is just going to end with a bunch of different CGM coming in and choosing a different end, isn't it? ( if not by one disagreeing with them and the calc being denied).

Personally i think that an attack that's described as being able to scorch/incinerate the surface getting 5-B is pretty sus. Sure, Boros says it's going to wipe out SAITAMA (who's tougher than a mountain) and the surface (as if that would be just collateral damage.) But even then Saitama's best feat is 5-C.
I think the High 6-A versions make the most sense story wise, but if 5-B makes more sense for a calc perspective then... ok, i guess.
 
UeTa said:
That's neat.

For my part : I just finished calculating the energy blast Released Boros's used against Saitama.

Since this feat is not ambiguous for the temperature. Being the source of "vaporizing the bones of any normal creature" and incinerating/melting down a portion of Boros' ship, I used the 784 million °C.

I will post it soon. This doesn't surpass the current scaling we use for Released Boros, but this is a good supportive feat either way. It could also (maybe) up Boros' ship durability, and hence Restricted Boros.
  • (The low-end is 12.344 Petatons, the high-end is 38.369 Petatons)
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I guess that would make all of Boros' keys High 6-A
 
Epiccheev said:
This is just going to end with a bunch of different CGM coming in and choosing a different end, isn't it? ( if not by one disagreeing with them and the calc being denied).

Personally i think that an attack that's described as being able to scorch/incinerate the surface getting 5-B is pretty sus. Sure, Boros says it's going to wipe out SAITAMA (who's tougher than a mountain) and the surface (as if that would be just collateral damage.) But even then Saitama's best feat is 5-C.
I think the High 6-A versions make the most sense story wise, but if 5-B makes more sense for a calc perspective then... ok, i guess.
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What we need to do is instead of having CGM say which end they prefer off the bat, they should check wether the math checks out or not. Later we can have a thread CGM restricted or not, to discuss which end fits best.
 
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Kachon123 said:
What we need to do is instead of having CGM say which end they prefer off the bad, they should check wether the math checks out or not. Later we can have a thrad CGM restricted or not, to discuss which end fits best.
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From what I know, all the math are correct. Even the absurd temperature exceeding 700 million °C.
  • (I even asked DemonGodMitch in advance on Discord if I was not wrong on this point mathematically speaking and he say yes, yet he doesn't know if this is allowed by VSBW standards.)
The only point that seems to be really debated by the CGM currently is the ionization and the possibility of superheated the gas that I didn't take into account. (My fault for only using dry air I guess)
 
UeTa said:
The only point that seems to be really debated by the CGM currently is the ionization and the possibility of superheated the gas that I didn't take into account. (My fault for only using dry air I guess)
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After the math gets evaluated. We should make a thread to discuss which end to use.
 
So vaporizing the entire Earth is not even 5-B but incinerating the surface is.

Sus.
 
Epiccheev said:
This is just going to end with a bunch of different CGM coming in and choosing a different end, isn't it? ( if not by one disagreeing with them and the calc being denied).

Personally i think that an attack that's described as being able to scorch/incinerate the surface getting 5-B is pretty sus. Sure, Boros says it's going to wipe out SAITAMA (who's tougher than a mountain) and the surface (as if that would be just collateral damage.) But even then Saitama's best feat is 5-C.
I think the High 6-A versions make the most sense story wise, but if 5-B makes more sense for a calc perspective then... ok, i guess.
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I addressed this point in the notes.

We already have several accepted calculations that far exceed 5-B (such as 5-A) for the destruction of a planet's surface. And the one linked here include kinetic energy such as ripping off a entire planet crust and pushing the atmosphere at extreme velocity (2.22% c) which would, in my opinion not just destroy the planet's crust. But a tiny, tiny bit more.
 
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