- 11,438
- 14,397
Murata needs to draw casual Tatsumaki more often
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
- Thread starter Phoenks
- Start date
- 4,387
- 3,341
What tier will this new fuhrer key be... at least 7-B, likely higher? He's as fast as Darkshine, faster than the council of swordsmen, and his acid just insta-killed an "at least low 7-B" swordsman. That's crazy. Transformed Fuhrer High Dragon for sure now
- 4,387
- 3,341
Yeah, but his acid is melting some of Darkshine's skin, that'd make him comparable to Darkshine's durability via acid- so his physical AP = Darkshine, but with acid he goes up a couple notches.
- 4,387
- 3,341
That or it's just dura neg, might just be considered dura neg
EDIT:Ninja'd
EDIT:Ninja'd
- 16,286
- 17,801
Acid is definitely dura nega. His AP would just be = Darkshine.
Also, since apparently Bomb =< this version of Garou, wouldn’t that mean Bomb and Bang are > Darkshine?
Also, since apparently Bomb =< this version of Garou, wouldn’t that mean Bomb and Bang are > Darkshine?
- 4,387
- 3,341
I think Bomb is getting buffed by Fubuki here. Potentially though, yes.
- 23,431
- 21,172
I mean, Bomb had his energy put into TTM, so...
- 1,984
- 1,236
It feels weird that Bomb is superior than Darkshine in AP.
- 1,013
- 430
I don't think this makes Bomb's AP>Darksine's ap. Bomb didn't damage Garou at all and Garou pretty much 2-3 shotted him with little effort.
- 23,431
- 21,172
I mean, Bomb is => Bang, and Bang clowned Darkshine. Also, Bomb's fighting style seems to be more offensive, so it's not that much of a stretch.
- 2,740
- 2,832
It seems they are keeping Bomb and Bang neck to neck in power.
- 2,500
- 1,248
I mean, Bang did clown Darkshine in a sparring match so idk if that counts for much
- 16,286
- 17,801
Bomb blocked multiple attacks from Garou, caught one of his punches and sent him flying, he absolutely scales here. Hell, there’s one page that’s nothing but them trading blows with each other, and it ends with them clashing evenly.
- 4,387
- 3,341
I don't think most people make much of it, it's not like Darkshine was using 100% power
- 1,013
- 430
We don't know how much effort Garou is putting into the fight. Also when they traded blows Bomb was visibly hurt while Garou doesn't even have a scratch. Heck Bomb was sweating bullets and Garou was fine even after easily matching Bomb's attack then basically one shotting him.
- 16,286
- 17,801
That just means Garou’s durability > his AP (which we already know is a thing since he could take Rover’s attacks while being like baseline Dragon in AP), that doesn’t mean Bomb can’t scale to his AP.
That’s a matter of stamina, again, doesn’t disprove Bomb scaling.
Last edited:
- 3,474
- 2,127
I'm a litte bit late here but yeah my opinion is that Bomb's AP > Darkshine's should not make sense with most of the readers. Bomb just has a vague feat of fighting Garou. Darkshine has better showings and statements that actually suggest he has more raw strength than Bomb.
- 16,286
- 17,801
I’m… not sure you know what vague actually means.
- 485
- 475
- 1,013
- 430
I would also like to point out with the whole Bang vs Darkshine match. That even after the sparring match Darkshine was still looking for a worthy opponent. So in Darkshine's mind Bang wasn't the worthy opponent he was looking for.
- 1,013
- 430
Sick half dead Garou managed to match a few blows from Bang, does that mean he scales? Short answer no.
- 8,155
- 4,141
I think we all can agree that bomb is a goat
- 485
- 475
What Darkshine was actually looking for was a gratifying victory (one he could control the outcome of) Bang utterly clowned on him and he didn´t land a single hit in their ¨match¨
- 3,474
- 2,127
We also forgot the fact that a weaker Garou could hurt Darkshine in the stomach with a kick before. Darkshine's durability >>>> his own AP, therefore he can't damage himself.
Subsequently, if Bomb scales to current Garou, who is very likely much stronger than before, then this is the scaling chain:
Bomb's strength and durability <= Garou (vs. Bomb) >~ Darkshine's durability >>> Darkshine's AP. Which I don't think it makes sense.
Subsequently, if Bomb scales to current Garou, who is very likely much stronger than before, then this is the scaling chain:
Bomb's strength and durability <= Garou (vs. Bomb) >~ Darkshine's durability >>> Darkshine's AP. Which I don't think it makes sense.
- 8,155
- 4,141
This garou isn't the final evolution , remember murata said he will transform again when he fights golden sperm. Like he did in the webcomic because of how strong golden sperm was.
- 1,013
- 430
Bang couldn't damage Darkshine and it was just a sparring match for Darkshine to see how power Bang was. So at best you could say it was a stalemate with Darkshine leaving unsatisfied, but still learning from the experience and using that experience to counter Garou.
- 8,155
- 4,141
We should wait for translations, but it might be safe to assume this garou is the same strength as the darkshine garou for now until he gets feats.
- 485
- 475
Darkshine actually barely took any damage (just some nose bleeds) from Garou even after a barrage of attacks so you could still say Darkshines dura > Bombs AP (his spirit was completely broken though)
- 3,474
- 2,127
I don't see how we can't assume Garou is much stronger than before given the fact that he just went through another transformation. Transforming = Becoming stronger.
- 11,478
- 3,457
The dialogues don’t really change the context that much. Chinese translations are already out and basically
At the beginning of the chapter all Bomb said is that Bang is currently preoccupied so he will be Garou’s opponent and he won’t hold back. After that he said let’s change a place to fight and proceeded to knock Garou away after stopping him from attacking Fubuki. And near the end when they were trading blows equally with each other Bomb just talked about how much Garou has improved and how he can’t go down before Bang arrives.
At the beginning of the chapter all Bomb said is that Bang is currently preoccupied so he will be Garou’s opponent and he won’t hold back. After that he said let’s change a place to fight and proceeded to knock Garou away after stopping him from attacking Fubuki. And near the end when they were trading blows equally with each other Bomb just talked about how much Garou has improved and how he can’t go down before Bang arrives.
- 8,155
- 4,141
We just don't have anything to go off of. Maybe in garous case he's just more attuned with his martial arts for now.
Also wasn't darkshine still stronger than Garou? When they fought his fighting style was still incomplete but it gradually got better which allowed him to overcome darkshine much like bang could already do.
- 22,743
- 23,466
Yes. Acid breaks down molecular cohesion. Nothing AP related.
- 22,743
- 23,466
As for Bomb/Bang it looks like the current scaling is that they're just outright better than Darkshine striking wise. Bang seemingly just held back on DS by a rather large amount.
- 3,474
- 2,127
Before the end of the fight, Garou just normally kicked him in the abdomen and he showed signs of pain. It wasn't shown he used a technique that negated durability. Garou's strength at that point has apparently surpassed Darkshine's if you take his claim of being unable to hurt himself into consideration. Whenever Garou went through transformtations, he became much stronger than before. So I don't see how this time is gonna be different, but for now we can say it is just an assumption.
Similar threads
