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Speaking of the cyborg boi, he tanked a hit from Black Sperm, and he can damage someone capable of harming him (Psykosjet) so 7-A+ Genos returns?
 
What tier will this new fuhrer key be... at least 7-B, likely higher? He's as fast as Darkshine, faster than the council of swordsmen, and his acid just insta-killed an "at least low 7-B" swordsman. That's crazy. Transformed Fuhrer High Dragon for sure now
 
Wouldn't Vomited Fuhrer Ugly just be whatever tier Darkshine is at since he matched a Superalloy Double Bazooka in power?
Yeah, but his acid is melting some of Darkshine's skin, that'd make him comparable to Darkshine's durability via acid- so his physical AP = Darkshine, but with acid he goes up a couple notches.
 
Yeah I think its probably best to just scale Vomited Fuhrer Ugly to Darkshine who is at least Low 7-B, possibly 7-A+ and say his vomit acid thing negates durability.
 
Acid is definitely dura nega. His AP would just be = Darkshine.

Also, since apparently Bomb =< this version of Garou, wouldn’t that mean Bomb and Bang are > Darkshine?
 
I don't think this makes Bomb's AP>Darksine's ap. Bomb didn't damage Garou at all and Garou pretty much 2-3 shotted him with little effort.
Bomb blocked multiple attacks from Garou, caught one of his punches and sent him flying, he absolutely scales here. Hell, there’s one page that’s nothing but them trading blows with each other, and it ends with them clashing evenly.
 
Bomb blocked multiple attacks from Garou, caught one of his punches and sent him flying, he absolutely scales here. Hell, there’s one page that’s nothing but them trading blows with each other, and it ends with them clashing evenly.
We don't know how much effort Garou is putting into the fight. Also when they traded blows Bomb was visibly hurt while Garou doesn't even have a scratch. Heck Bomb was sweating bullets and Garou was fine even after easily matching Bomb's attack then basically one shotting him.
 
Also when they traded blows Bomb was visibly hurt while Garou doesn't even have a scratch.
That just means Garou’s durability > his AP (which we already know is a thing since he could take Rover’s attacks while being like baseline Dragon in AP), that doesn’t mean Bomb can’t scale to his AP.
Heck Bomb was sweating bullets and Garou was fine
That’s a matter of stamina, again, doesn’t disprove Bomb scaling.
even after easily matching Bomb's attack then basically one shotting him.
It’s almost like Garou gets stronger as he fights or something
 
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I'm a litte bit late here but yeah my opinion is that Bomb's AP > Darkshine's should not make sense with most of the readers. Bomb just has a vague feat of fighting Garou. Darkshine has better showings and statements that actually suggest he has more raw strength than Bomb.
 
That just means Garou’s durability > his AP, that doesn’t mean Bomb can’t scale to his AP.

That’s a matter of stamina, again, doesn’t disprove Bomb scaling.

It’s almost like Garou gets stronger as he fights or something
Plus Bomb is fighting Garou while tired since he gave Fubuki his energy
 
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