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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

@Ourosboros Bit of both, especially since he's kind of a powerhouse in the original story. It's more that he's way more of a POS in the manga.
 
ByAsura said:
@Ourosboros Bit of both, especially since he's kind of a powerhouse in the original story. It's more that he's way more of a POS in the manga.
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Oh, well I wouldn't worry about the power aspect, I expect Amai will come back in like 10 or so chapters stronger than before and fight with the cadres after King has his stand-off with the cadres.

Not sure about the character stuff- IDK where ONE Is going with this.
 
Probably monsterified, though.

Imo, Sweet Mask won't show up again after his battle with Pesky Clown.
 
Sweet Mask is likely to just regenerate and come back later on, I'm pretty sure we will get that Black sperm fight, and I think the pesky clown fight will surely pay respect to sweet mask

ByAsura said:
Imo, Sweet Mask won't show up again after his battle with Pesky Clown.
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Eh, I kinda doubt that. Seems like such a weird way to write off an important character.
 
ByAsura said:
Probably monsterified, though.

Imo, Sweet Mask won't show up again after his battle with Pesky Clown.
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Never again? Webigaza is actively looking for Amai, it feels like their both their arcs wouldn't be resolved until they meet up somehow.
 
Oh yeah, I forgot about her.

I thought that because it's a surprisingly common trope.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
I'm really sketchy on this, it's not exactly a confirmed rtaknf like above dragon is. It's also referring to vaccine man, who ended up as a strong dragon threat, being 7-B. It's also stated later on that the cadres are on a whole other level than the demons are. So no, I don't think above demon level is legit
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I think only Bug God deserves it.
 
I mean... we can assume that the settings have been nearly fully applied up to the time of the interview, Volume 10, before.

The settings that have not changed yet are retained (Usually assume even if one of the contents of the past setting is negated, the contents of the setting are not completely lost).
power scaling of Character Related to the newly changed content of character is not maintained. Because it is actually a scaling change
 
Except he is never stated to be in that level, we can't just assume things from a pretty iffy statement.
 
Even then, Murata only said the scenes and story were similar. He said nothing about them being equal in power. The level of destruction in Genos' mountain feat is different in the webcomic, as one mountain is affected and not two.
 
I don't know about Demon or higher level threat, but Bug God definitely isn't confirmed to be a Dragon by Drive Knight. This was stated by Genos after he had access to Drive Knight's data. You can see that in this and this scan, Bug God isn't shown while all of the executive members are clearly shown and stated to be Dragon.
 
Not only that, but Bug God being a dragon contradicts quite a good chunk of things. And unlike Boros or Orochi (Kinda) Bug God is never listed anywhere as demon or higher.
 
ByAsura said:
Even then, Murata only said the scenes and story were similar. He said nothing about them being equal in power. The level of destruction in Genos' mountain feat is different in the webcomic, as one mountain is affected and not two.
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I said not mean web and manga have the same power, I'm just talking about power scaling between in opm characters.


Any change in power scaling affects the original delivery intention of the work.
randomly changes to the character or story part, except for the picture description, are contrary to Murata's intention to obtain permission from one when doing such a thing.

I.e. the intention of the picture
The combat power that can be seen through the picture is not preserved, but other intentions are preserved
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Not only that, but Bug God being a dragon contradicts quite a good chunk of things. And unlike Boros or Orochi (Kinda) Bug God is never listed anywhere as demon or higher.
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Well I don't know how to post scans but he is shown in DK's data with the cadre. Although it says something like: threat level demons or above (in plural, implying there are demons and dragons in the panel) there is evidence supporting Bug God being near dragon level.

After awakening, Garou fights Royal Ripper and gets stabbed in the stomach. Garou, while being implied a dragon level threat in the fight against Unicorn,Showehead.... doesn't have the durability to tank RR's slashes. Bug God in base form is shown consistently tanking bloodlusted attacks from RR. Not only that, but those attacks are being redirected by WSRSF, so they could be twice as powerful as the one Garou couldn't tank. If Garou's attack potency is necessarily equal or below his own durability, it would be impossible for him to damage Bug God. Sure, maybe he can outspeed him, but he will never be able to defeat Bug God, even if he is implied to be a dragon. That leads me to believe Bug God in base is around that league and Transformed Bug God is definitely a dragon.
 
Base Bug God was confirmed to be Demon when he first appeared. We can agree that Bug God's true strength (After transforming) is maybe around the level of baseline Dragon, but it is just that it wasn't never confirmed by statements and scans. There's also a chance that Bug God is a stonewall.
 
There's even really saying that his evolved form is that of a dragon, as ONE would've stated so like the ninja duo, yet he didn't, so he ain't.

And there's not even anything saying that Bug God is THE strongest demon of all time. It's stated the gap between demon characters and dragons are massive.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
There's even really saying that his evolved form is that of a dragon, as ONE would've stated so like the ninja duo, yet he didn't
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But it is contradicted by the scaling itself, where a supposedly baseline dragon like Garou can not harm him in base.

Golden Sperm isn't given a threat level, yet we all assume he is above dragon because of the scaling chain.
 
ImposingTiger said:
But it is contradicted by the scaling itself, where a supposedly baseline dragon like Garou can not harm him in base.
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Then the current rating is either wrong and that he isn't fully a dragon when fighting RR, or RR harming him is an outlier as we see him go against the likes of Rover later on.


ImposingTiger said:
Golden Sperm isn't given a threat level, yet we all assume he is above dragon because of the scaling chain.
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GS isn't dragon or above. And he's a dragon because it's simple logic scaling
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
GS isn't dragon or above. And he's a dragon because it's simple logic scaling
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Most of us agree GS is an above dragon because of the Orochi and Tatsumaki statements.

Emirp sumitpo said:
Then the current rating is either wrong and that he isn't fully a dragon when fighting RR, or RR harming him is an outlier as we see him go against the likes of Rover later on.
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It's easier to say it is an outlier than finding a logical explanation, like I did. While I agree base Bug God is a demon and Garou probably was actually a demon too, Transformed Bug God should be a dragon. And no, Rover left Garou near-dead while RR's attack could be regenerated quite easily.
 
And I want to make it clear, I am not proposing this to be implemented into the wiki, I was just arguing why he is a dragon when he transforms, and not a demon.
 
It's likely that Bug God isn't too far from something like a low-end Dragon level, but he's nowhere near most or even all of the Cadres. Why would this affect scaling, though? Dragon levels already scale to them.
Six_fold_god said:
I said not mean web and manga have the same power, I'm just talking about power scaling between in opm characters.


Any change in power scaling affects the original delivery intention of the work.
randomly changes to the character or story part, except for the picture description, are contrary to Murata's intention to obtain permission from one when doing such a thing.

I.e. the intention of the picture
The combat power that can be seen through the picture is not preserved, but other intentions are preserved
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That's fair then, with a few small exceptions. The Garou fight, for example, was portrayed as much more even despite Elder Centipede (a character implied to be around BG/RR's level) assisting. Garou was also at full strength when fighting Genos, whom RR, EC and Bug God are implied to be relative to in power.

Plus, it's very much worth mentioning that Genos doesn't have as many upgrades in earlier sagas, including the Machine God battle, post-MA arc, post-Psychic Sisters and post-Family of Darkness fight. In the manga, he gets the tactical arms, post-Sea King upgrades, the G4 amp, post Super-Fight upgrades, and the Monster Association boost.
 
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And like I said, nothing points to him being a dragon when he transforms, as he isn't stated as one like the ninja duo or Phoenix man.

That being said, early monster Garoy needs some slight scaling revisioning
 
The fact that ONE loves to label characters whenever they've jumped to another category proves Bug God didn't go into dragon level category
 
???

I'm literally saying considering that whenever a monster grows to a new category, he will label them in their new respective category.

The fact he didn't do so for Bug God when he transformed shows transformed Bug God ISN'T a dragon

This has nothing to do with my opinion of him and how you reached that conclusion is astonishing
 
Even if he is Dragon level in that other form, what does it change exactly? Anyway, I do kind of remember some Bug God data, and I'll try to find it (I might be thinking of someone else).

Edit: I found nothing. It might just be an example of the Mandela effect, but Murata redraws his chapters a lot.
 
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ByAsura said:
Even if he is Dragon level in that other form, what does it change exactly? Anyway, I do kind of remember some Bug God data, and I'll try to find it (I might be thinking of someone else).
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I said I was just debunking him being a demon, I don't want to implement any changes.

Some weeks ago someone posted that scan here. It must be somewhere.
 
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