STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

[Tetsucabrah]

Like I said it would be a pretty heavy lowball. But if TTM throwing an ordinary apartment building hundreds of meters into the air can get Class G-T I would imagine throwing one of the world’s largest buildings into low orbit would get insane results.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Is it confirmed that the base is carved out of a mountain?

 

[ByAsura]

Not in the webcomic, but it would be logically. Before the series, monsters like that wouldn't exist. At the very least, the façade is a mountain made of natural rock.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

@Emirp The Burj Khalifa is over half that and only weighs half a million tons. But the association is literally carved out of a far thicker mountain, so it'd be much heavier.

You mentioned something about hollowness, how much would that affect it? Also base on assumptions, what would be your preferred rating? I'm guessing it might be Class T, but that might be wank

@ByAsura, what are your thoughts on cross-scaling? Like Webcomic Tatsumaki scaling to Mob and such

Also

 

[ByAsura]

It'd reduce the total by maybe 2-5.

The site's policy is not to use cross-scaling without evidence, even if it's the same creator. Tbh, I somewhat agree with that assessment due to how inconsistent and plot-based fiction is. Also, we've discussed Tatsumaki and Mob scaling in the past and agreed not to do it.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Fair enought on the cross scaling, but does Class T sound like wank?

 

[ByAsura]

I'm not sure, sorry.

 

[Six_fold_god]

Well... it might not have much to do with what you're talking about right now

But maybe it can be helpful for a specific problem.
I'm sorry if you guys already know.

In fact, Murata said in a databook interview that he rarely changes even the lines of web comics, and changing lines or developments only in the extra edition, only when one approval is obtained. The interview in the databook is at the time of volume 9.
Unless this is a special case, it can be safely assumed that the power balance settings have not been changed randomly until that point, as you can see that murata have tried to deliver the contents of the web comic completely.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Well... it might not have much to do with what you're talking about right now

But maybe it can be helpful for a specific problem.
I'm sorry if you guys already know.

In fact, Murata said in a databook interview that he rarely changes even the lines of web comics, and changing lines or developments only in the extra edition, only when one approval is obtained. The interview in the databook is at the time of volume 9.
Unless this is a special case, it can be safely assumed that the power balance settings have not been changed randomly until that point, as you can see that murata have tried to deliver the contents of the web comic completely.

This seems interesting, might help us with manga scaling in the future

 

[Six_fold_god]

By the way, the lowest level of dragon is far superior to the highest demon isn't there any evidence.

Then there must be one rank between the dragon and the demon.

Although there is demon or higher.

demon or higher is considered to be a possibility of a dragon.
As mentioned in the side story

This means that the difference between a lowest dragon and a highest demon is not so big.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I'm really sketchy on this, it's not exactly a confirmed rtaknf like above dragon is. It's also referring to vaccine man, who ended up as a strong dragon threat, being 7-B. It's also stated later on that the cadres are on a whole other level than the demons are. So no, I don't think above demon level is legit

 

[Six_fold_god]

I'm really sketchy on this, it's not exactly a confirmed rtaknf like above dragon is. It's also referring to vaccine man, who ended up as a strong dragon threat, being 7-B. It's also stated later on that the cadres are on a whole other level than the demons are. So no, I don't think above demon level is legit

I know Vaccine Man is one of the really powerful dragon.


But the script was probably before he was rated at the exact threat level.

we can know association's disaster-level assessment process by see that script

And another proof that the Monster Association's dragon have different levels of power, its not that proof the lowest dragon should be much stronger than the highest demon.

 

[ByAsura]

Murata has pretty clearly gone back on that sentiment, which I think he made in 2015. Tornado and Psykos' feats totally eclipse their webcomic counterparts. There's also Genos, Fuhrer Ugly, Sweet Mask, etc.

 

[Ourosboros]

I was wondering when the statement was made. The scaling is obviously different in the manga, manga Psykos couldn't have psychically bound Tatsumaki if she had the surprise in the world, whereas webcomic Psykos did bind webcomic Tatsumaki. The scaling is different and honestly, webcomic Awakened Garou looks much more impressive than webcomic Boros (outside of CSRC of course).

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Also, we've discussed Tatsumaki and Mob scaling in the past and agreed not to do it.

But that was because Tatsumaki became High 6-A while Mob's best feat was High 7-A.
It could be argued that ONE's statement always was intended for the webcomic and not the manga.

 

[ByAsura]

It was even before that.

I still disagree with using it to begin with. Cross-scaling is unreliable.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

It's not unreliable in this case because Mob's series is over and there's no volatility in his rating like there was in Tatsumaki's when he was the one scaling to her.

 

[Ourosboros]

Are we discussing scaling wc Tatsumaki to mob? I'd be okay with it if they end-up with feats in the same ballpark, but as to scaling wc tatsumaki to mob on the sheer token of the statement I'd say no for the reasons we've avoided it previously.

I would support the Ossan scaling though. WC Golden Sperm has no calcable feats but we know he's a cut above WC dragons, Ossan's feats fall into that territory. Could we pull up the statement for that one?

 

[ByAsura]

That doesn't make it more reliable. Your own logic doesn't even line up with itself because the OPM webcomic isn't finished.

What feats exactly? Tatsumaki has two very casual City level feats in the webcomic, so does Mob have anything comparable (outside his ???% form, I'm guessing)?

Edit: Nvm on this point. I thought the storm cloud feat used the anime version of the scene, but it's actually the webcomic.

Also, he says he's not sure if Mob gets serious, so how exactly is this scaling valid to begin with?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

We need to create a new thread. All the original issues have been resolved and now there are new ones.

 

[Ourosboros]

We need to create a new thread. All the original issues have been resolved and now there are new ones.

A new CRT you mean?

Both the low-tiers and speed CRTs still have unresolved issues, if that's what you mean.

 

[Ourosboros]

New "STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread"

Impossible, we need to keep this page forever

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Impossible, we need to keep this page forever

Indeed, we must get this thread to 1000 pages

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

And another proof that the Monster Association's dragon have different levels of power, its not that proof the lowest dragon should be much stronger than the highest demon.

I don't really get this part

Also no, the dialogue implies the VM to be at the very least a demon threat, if not much higher. And as we know, he became a dragon.

And it's not like we can just throw around above demon level threats around either, as this guy is the only one to receive said rating.

 

[RinneItachi]

I just realized something. The meteor that Saitama destroyed was directly stated to have made a sudden change of course when passing by the moon. God is heavily implied to be linked with the moon, and definitely linked with space. Furthermore, God clearly wants humanity extinct. I think God himself was the one that caused the entire incident. And ONE does love foreshadowing.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I also think the whole fan theory of GOD sending Boros to earth is kinda likely. Like, he more or less indirectly lured Boros to earth in the form of a prophecy, and deceived Boros that he will receive a good fight. Of course, this failed and Boros dies.

At least Boros died getting what he wanted tho

 

[Quangotjokes]

I dont think God wants to destroy humanity. That would kinda negate the point of the cubes.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

The cubes are used to interact with people at times tho. And a lot of things that seem to connect to God seem to always want humanity eradicated

 

[Quangotjokes]

I just figured he used the cubes to further his lifespan. Kinda like Ryuk on death note. We'll hopefully get more info soon

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

There's... No implication of that

 

[Quangotjokes]

No implication of destroying humanity either. All theories though

 

[RinneItachi]

HE straight up says that him and God have the same goal of wiping out humanity. You also have Vaccine Man who is heavily implied to be created by God, and he pretty clearly states that he wanted humanity gone, as well. The Cubes really don't act as counter evidence, if anything he could've made them as a way to strengthen people and get them to carry on his desire to wipe out humanity. Another theory is based on Amai's brief explanation of history in the webcomic. Humans had warred with each other and eventually migrated to the super continent, reestablishing society to be more diverse, less aggressive, and even merging every language together to better suit that goal. People theorize that this is related to Vaccine Man's desire to wipe out humanity, as he deems them as an evil virus only polluting the Earth. God wanting to wipe out humanity makes sense and is extremely implied.

 

[RinneItachi]

Saying that God's desire to wipe out humanity is purely theoretical with no actual evidence is just wrong.

 

[Quangotjokes]

It's all theory until proven otherwise

 

[RinneItachi]

A theory can still have evidence and be classified as a theory you know? It's a very likely theory.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

It's all theory until proven otherwise

It has more backing to it than him wanting to further his lifespan, which has nothing to back that.

Also HE even claims his power was given to him by God so he could destroy humanity so...

 

[ByAsura]

On another note, I don't like what they did to Sweet Mask in the manga.

 

[Ourosboros]

A theory can still have evidence and be classified as a theory you know? It's a very likely theory.

Occam's razor. God, as far as we know, told Homeless something that he had no reason to lie about. It aligned with what he told Psykos too (nobody but Psykorochi = no humanity), so if he was lying he was lying twice.

You can't really call it a theory when it's an open statement by a character whose motives we have no reason to second guess.

I bet that God's plan is much bigger than humanity. He almost certainly does want humanity out of the way because it inconveniences his plans in one way or another. Now as to what those plans exactly are? That's impossible to know until we know more about what he is. Until then we can only say that he has a stated desire to destroy humanity.

 

[Ourosboros]

On another note, I don't like what they did to Sweet Mask in the manga.

You mean the tearing-in-half part or the mental breakdowns part?

 

[Quangotjokes]

That's vaccine mans HE reason for gaining power. Not gods reason for giving.

Those could very be red herrings.