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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

AtomicSekiro said:
Regarding the limiter convo above, “surpassing/breaking the limiter” is not the same as “removing the limiter”.

Orochi and Garou break their limiters and get explosively stronger, but still hit new limits, which they can break again.

Monsters in general just transform and get NEW limiters with their monster bodies.

Saitama has no limiter. It’s gone. Removed. He can train and get stronger and stronger and never hit that limit like Garou or Orochi does.

So you can’t exactly scale them just because they all vaguely are tied to the concept of limiters.
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But Saitama can't get stronger anymore ever since he became bald because he has nothing to gain with weak opponents. Hopefully, god can make Saitama get stronger while Saitama is not holding back his strength anymore if both fight in the future.
 
When did Saitama say he couldn’t get stronger?

And if he can’t, it’s probably because the best workout he could possibly come up with nowadays would only add infinitely marginally small increases to his girthy power.
 
AtomicSekiro said:
When did Saitama say he couldn’t get stronger?

And if he can’t, it’s probably because the best workout he could possibly come up with nowadays would only add infinitely marginally small increases to his girthy power.
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I got from the description on the profile and forgot what chapter he said it
 
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé said:
Didn't Saitama said he can't get any stronger anymore than that?
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Plateau effect stuff. He doesn't have limits so he can't get any stronger. He just is.

Edit to explain with number :
(That's random number, possibly exponential depending on your views of the thing)
  • Boros power is 8, Released Boros was 12. And Meteoric was, 18. So 18 would be his max power. And a "finite" number.
  • But Saitama doesn't have "limits".
    • His strength can basically scale to 1 to any finite number. And we know that this doesn't scale to strength only. He can learn supernatural abilities too :
  • Like telepathy or the power to literally shatter and enter another dimension separate from normal time. (Pheonix space) If we theorize: since we know that OPM's endgame is probably going to include some cosmic b*llshit with God. I wouldn't be surprised if Saitama would even be able to unlock the abilities to hit with infinite strength in a single blow.
From what we know too. He only seems to gets these supernatural abilities when he needs them. (Entering Pheonix's space, listening to Child Emperor and Phoenix Man thoughs discussion) So that still fit with the Plateau effect stuff. (surpassing your "limits")
  • T̶o̶o̶ ̶b̶a̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶o̶u̶g̶h̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶h̶e̶ ̶d̶o̶e̶s̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶g̶e̶t̶ ̶a̶b̶i̶l̶i̶t̶i̶e̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶c̶r̶e̶a̶t̶e̶ ̶m̶o̶n̶e̶y̶,̶ ̶f̶l̶y̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶m̶a̶n̶y̶ ̶o̶t̶h̶e̶r̶.̶ ̶H̶e̶n̶c̶e̶ ̶w̶h̶y̶ ̶I̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶n̶k̶ ̶i̶t̶'̶s̶ a ̶u̶n̶c̶o̶n̶s̶c̶i̶o̶u̶s̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶e̶d̶e̶d̶.̶
 
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Even if Saitama in theory had massively better Reactive evolution than Garou and could keep evolving ad infinum it would still be useless for him if nothing in his verse can strain him at all.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
By AC I assuming you're referring to awakened cockroach.

it's been discussed before. It's aim dodging.
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But him being able to "aimdodge" Sol attacks should be noted on his profile, similar to how Spider-Man is MHS+ but is noted as having Relativistic + reactions.
 
Yeah, the spider sense is a different thing than AC's danger senses or whatever they're called.

Whatever AC has is just precog
 
Maverick_Zero_X said:
Spider-Man’s Spider-Sense isn’t a good example because that legitimately amplifies his perception speed.
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Not really, it just tells him when danger is nearby, and compels his body to react. It's pretty much word for word AC's ability, the only difference is that Spidey's Spider Sense has a wider range of things it can detect.
 
ImposingTiger said:
Someone on reddit calced Saitama's bonus chapter feat at 0.14 C
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I asked about the feat on r/theydidthe math. The top answers calculated it at 0.38c. Here is the comment:

Let's say you're 1 m from the mirror. Since the light needs to travel to the mirror and back, it travels 2 m.
The speed of light in air is about 299,700,000 m/s.
So it takes light 2 m / 299,700,000 m/s = 1/149,850,000 s =~ 0.000000006673 s to travel that distance.

So if you want to catch the back of your head in the mirror while still stationary, you only have 0.000000006673 seconds to turn around.

To turn that into a distance traveled, we need to define a point on your head that we're looking at. Let's say your nose sticks out 15 cm from the axis around which your head turns. Let's also say that you turn your head 120° = 2/3 * pi (your eyes and field of vision provide the remaining 60°).
That means a full cricle turn would have a distance of 15 cm * 2 pi =~ 94.25 cm.
But we're only interested in one third of that full turn, so 15 cm * 2 pi / 3 =~ 31.42 cm.

That would mean a turning speed of 0.3142 m / (2 m / 299,700,000 m/s) =~ 47,083,000 m/s.
That's 38% the speed of light.

But that's assuming 0 time to accelerate - just immediately 38% the speed of light for the full duration. That would mean infinite acceleration and infinite energy required. So that's not possible.
If we instead accelerated (and decelerated) at a constant rate to minimize g-forces, we'd need to spend half the turning time to accelerate up to twice that speed and the rest to decelerate again.
So within a time of 0.000000006673 s / 2, we'd have to accelerate to (and after that decelerate from) a speed of 47,083,000 m/s * 2.
That's an acceleration of
47,083,000 m/s * 2 / (0.000000006673 s / 2)
=~ 28,222,988,161,246,815 m/s^(2).
Or about 2.9 quadrillion g.
 
UeTa said:
That's 28,440,300,000,000,000 m/s².
  • Since Saitama mass is 70 kg.
  • That's 70 kg x 2,900,000,000,000,000 G = 203,000,000,000,000,000 kg (2.030e+17 kg) or 203 quadrillion kg. (Class P)
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Is there anything that stops us from applying this?
 
Tural2004 said:
I asked about the feat on r/theydidthe math. The top answers calculated it at 0.38c. Here is the comment:

Let's say you're 1 m from the mirror. Since the light needs to travel to the mirror and back, it travels 2 m.
The speed of light in air is about 299,700,000 m/s.
So it takes light 2 m / 299,700,000 m/s = 1/149,850,000 s =~ 0.000000006673 s to travel that distance.

So if you want to catch the back of your head in the mirror while still stationary, you only have 0.000000006673 seconds to turn around.

To turn that into a distance traveled, we need to define a point on your head that we're looking at. Let's say your nose sticks out 15 cm from the axis around which your head turns. Let's also say that you turn your head 120° = 2/3 * pi (your eyes and field of vision provide the remaining 60°).
That means a full cricle turn would have a distance of 15 cm * 2 pi =~ 94.25 cm.
But we're only interested in one third of that full turn, so 15 cm * 2 pi / 3 =~ 31.42 cm.

That would mean a turning speed of 0.3142 m / (2 m / 299,700,000 m/s) =~ 47,083,000 m/s.
That's 38% the speed of light.

But that's assuming 0 time to accelerate - just immediately 38% the speed of light for the full duration. That would mean infinite acceleration and infinite energy required. So that's not possible.
If we instead accelerated (and decelerated) at a constant rate to minimize g-forces, we'd need to spend half the turning time to accelerate up to twice that speed and the rest to decelerate again.
So within a time of 0.000000006673 s / 2, we'd have to accelerate to (and after that decelerate from) a speed of 47,083,000 m/s * 2.
That's an acceleration of
47,083,000 m/s * 2 / (0.000000006673 s / 2)
=~ 28,222,988,161,246,815 m/s^(2).
Or about 2.9 quadrillion g.
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Oh, checking my own wiki to get some light value. I saw a microscopic flaw in their calculation. Which is probably just to round the number :
  • The speed of light in air is : 299 702 547 m / s not 299,700,000 m/s. It's ever so slightly different.
If you want other values btw :
  • The speed of light in a vaccum is : 299 792 458 m / s (1 c)
  • The speed of light in water (average) is : 225 317 952 m / s
  • Speed of a man-made laser ray : ~299 790 000 m / s
 
To think that 3 pages chapter could give in-training Saitama relativistic speed and class P lifting strength... And I was planning on making low 7-B/7-B Saitama CRT. Guess I will wait until a calc gets accepted
 
I know about attack potency one. We can't get kinetic energy from characters moving unless it is specifically stated that it increases their AP. But it is the first time that I see that restriction on Lifting Strength. Afaik we use jumping to calculate lifting strength, turning around shouldn't be much different.
 
My question is how this 2 years of training Saitama scales to the rest of the verse, does he's pretty clearly above demon, but would dragon levels scale to him?
 
Tural2004 said:
But it is the first time that I see that restriction on Lifting Strength. Afaik we use jumping to calculate lifting strength, turning around shouldn't be much different.
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Jumping is one thing, but what characters got Lifting Strength from just moving fast?
 
Cryo123 said:
My question is how this 2 years of training Saitama scales to the rest of the verse, does he's pretty clearly above demon, but would dragon levels scale to him?
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Partially balding Saitama from the audiobooks resisted Tatsumaki's TK, so Saitama is definitely above dragon at that point. Let me find the audiobook once I finish calcing this moon knight feat
 
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