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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

So I checked this calc of Beefcake's feat and... I see everyone thinks that he created this crater with one city level punch, although actually it took him dozens of punches. In this case, obtained result must be divided by the number of punches to get Beefcake's real AP per one attack. And the calc as a whole is wank: if you just think logically, you'll understand that 30 megatons blows should have created a shockwave that would obliterate everything within several km radius, not only this relatively small crater.

You will say "but these are wiki rules", but, to be honest, I never put up with this wanking via vaporization and wanking wiki rules. And yet "vapour" looks more like dust from pulverization; have any of you ever seen what the vaporization of a stone looks like in real life to be sure of vapour conjectures? It all just defies common sense. Sorry for me being hot-tempered
 
Jaechöndaeseong said:
So I checked this calc of Beefcake's feat and... I see everyone thinks that he created this crater with one city level punch, although actually it took him dozens of punches. In this case, obtained result must be divided by the number of punches to get Beefcake's real AP per one attack. And the calc as a whole is wank: if you just think logically, you'll understand that 30 megatons blows should have created a shockwave that would obliterate everything within several km radius, not only this relatively small crater.

You will say "but these are wiki rules", but, to be honest, I never put up with this wanking via vaporization and wanking wiki rules. And yet "vapour" looks more like dust from pulverization; have any of you ever seen what the vaporization of a stone looks like in real life to be sure of vapour conjectures? It all just defies common sense. Sorry for me being hot-tempered
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We previously had a discussion about downgrading the calc, and IIRC, Beefcake's feat is actually like town level. He was supposed to be downgraded to At least Low 7-B (Via upscaling from the strongest demons) as his crater feat was bunk, but no one got to it for some reason.
 
I'm still a bit iffy on the crater size itself, but we all agreed the ending stomp did the brunt of the damages. Previously, it was just a small crater.

In all fairness, a Town level attack or anything powerful enough to make that kind of crater in the first place (whether it's pulverization or not) would also obliterate much of the surrounding city. It's just fiction, and we clearly that it rises up from the crater like steam.

Edit: Actually, it probably is just dust. I'll add this to the CRT.
 
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How much did the last calc for this yield? Was it like 7-C? And are we like still deciding to downgrade Beefcake to At least Low 7-B
 
There were a few. Mine was around that tier, another was way higher than this current calc (Large Mountain level high-end, or something). I think we didn't get around to downgrading him because A) we stopped caring, and B) IIRC, none were any more or less valid.
 
If the current calc is bunk and we can't decide on a new one, then maybe we should get to downgrading him until we get something new
 
I'm already adding it to the CRT.

Still haven't got those translations, though.

Edit: F**k it. I'll just get it out of the way. Should be done by tonight or tomorrow.
 
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Before I publish, here's what I've got.
  • メタルナイトと同様の、特種加工が施されている。
  • It has been specially processed in the same way as Metal Knight.
 
Quangotjokes said:
Not saying it is or it still but what if those dots aren't dust or even planets. What if they're actually other portals to alternate realities as well. If that's the case it could set up some higher end feats for the series.

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That's an interesting idea. Maybe GOD created his own realm and he's maybe doing shit across the multiverse. Low multiversal OPM when
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
That's an interesting idea. Maybe GOD created his own realm and he's maybe doing shit across the multiverse. Low multiversal OPM when
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It's the fact that he has to ressurect on the earth which gave me the idea. Maybe he needs a constant source of sacrifices to remain in a reality.

Time will tell.
 
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Possible FTL feat? Although Saitama is already on Earth, the crater still hasn't appeared.
 
We literally have no other timeframe. And we tend to use anime timeframes rather than assume one, unless we have no other option
 
But I am not assuming a time frame. He reached Earth before the crater even became visible. It takes roughly 1.3 seconds for light to reach Earth from the moon. So Saitama had to move faster than that which is FTL
 
?

The crater should have been visible the moment he left the surface. And as we see in the anime and manga, it takes Saitama a while to reach while Boros has his internal monologue.
 
The crater was visible from Moon, not from Earth. Also, the picture I sent a few minutes earlier supports that the crater still wasn't visible from Earth
 
The ship was collapsing and the heroes spoke and reacted within that timeframe.

It shows that the crater's also not visible even at the end of the chapter, unless you want to say half the Boros fight and Tatsumaki's bombardment took place in 1.8 seconds. If that's the case, the calculation for Saitama's serious punch would also be invalidated due to FTL kinetic energy.
 
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ByAsura said:
The ship was collapsing and the heroes spoke and reacted within that timeframe.

It shows that the crater's also not visible even at the end of the chapter, unless you want to say half the Boros fight and Tatsumaki's bombardment took place in 1.8 seconds. If that's the case, the calculation for Saitama's serious punch would also be invalidated.
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Heroes reacted to the ship which wasn't collapsing with FTL speed. I don't get what's your argument

Yes, the crater wasn't visible at the end of the chapter but Boros is relativistic+. I mean if Saitama reached Earth in 1 second, they still would have over 0.2 seconds. Everything else taking place within that time is believable. Also half the Boros fight? It was the end of the fight
 
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The ship collapsed before we see the moon in either of those panels, so it'd be unreasonable quick.

Let's see what else happened in that timeframe. Firstly, as I mentioned before, the ship begins to collapse and all the heroes react to it within this timeframe. Secondly, the ship falls onto A-City and creates dust clouds. Third, explosions form across the ship from Boros' reflected attack. Fourth, the gravity core breaks and Boros' non-combatant minions react. Fifth, the cloud split finishes (now orders of magnitude higher than the current calculation because it'd have to occur in less than 1.8 seconds). Lastly, Boros has a chat with Saitama while he has absolutely no energy to amp his speed.

It's not believable.
 
ByAsura said:
The ship collapsed before we see the moon in either of those panels, so it'd be unreasonable quick.
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The ship collapsing before the crater becoming visible still wouldn't make it FTL
ByAsura said:
Let's see what else happened in that timeframe. Firstly, as I mentioned before, the ship begins to collapse and all the heroes react to it within this timeframe. Secondly, the ship falls onto A-City and creates dust clouds. Third, explosions form across the ship from Boros' reflected attack. Fourth, the gravity core breaks and Boros' non-combatant minions react. Fifth, the cloud split finishes (now orders of magnitude higher than the current calculation). Lastly, Boros has a chat with Saitama while he has absolutely no energy to amp his speed.

It's not believable.
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Iaian is by far the slowest guy there and he is mach 42. For comparison, Usain Bolt can run 12.27m/s. That is almost 1165 times difference. 0.2 × 1165 =233 seconds.
So even from Iaian's perspective 0.2 seconds is almost 4 minutes let alone S class heroes. And even in anime everything happened less than 4 minutes. It is believable
 
But by the time the battle ends, we still see that there is no crater on the moon. And with your logic of Saitama must've reached the Earth before the crater was even visible, means the ship falling must've been FTL because it all happened before the crater was finally shown.

It's more likely that this is just an error by Murata then it is ONE and Murata intentionally making Saitama faster than us being able to see the crater
 
Tural2004 said:
The ship collapsing before the crater becoming visible still wouldn't make it FTL

Iaian is by far the slowest guy there and he is mach 42. For comparison, Usain Bolt can run 12.27m/s. That is almost 1165 times difference. 0.2 × 1165 =233 seconds.
So even from Iaian's perspective 0.2 seconds is almost 4 minutes let alone S class heroes. And even in anime everything happened less than 4 minutes. It is believable
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That's literally if you just include the heroes and not the A) near-dead Boros, B) slow ass aliens, C) cloud split, D) the several falls of the ship, and E) talking that somehow occurs at the same speed for everyone. You're cherry picking to make it seem reasonable.

Also, we don't even see the crater form on the moon at any point. Confining this to 1.8 seconds is a massive low-ball if you're right, and requires the assumption that Saitama moved many times faster than light.
 
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ByAsura said:
That's literally if you just include the heroes and not the A) energyless Boros, B) slow ass aliens, C) cloud split. You're cherry picking to make it seem reasonable.
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A) We don't know how fast enegyless Boros is. If he was weakened 100 times he would still be faster than Iaian. The same for 1000 times. The same for 10000 times. Also during their coversation the core cracked but from their perspective the ship was barely falling which suggests they were still at incredible speeds.

B) According what they are slow? Only thing we know that they are weaker than Saitama and Amai Mask

C) Nothing suggests that cloud split was FTL. Moon Jump and Cloud split feats are entirely different
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
And with your logic of Saitama must've reached the Earth before the crater was even visible, means the ship falling must've been FTL because it all happened before the crater was finally shown.
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No, with my logic ship must fall before light reaches Earth. The light should go over 384000 km in this situation while ship must go a few km. That's not even sub relativistic fall
 
A) He's stationary and basically dead. That's how fast he is.

B) The fact that they're not any type of combatants.

C) That's not the point. The point is that it'd randomly have to occur super fast.

Also you missed my edits. Re-read that post.
 
Tural2004 said:
No, with my logic ship must fall before light reaches Earth. The light should go over 384000 km in this situation while ship must go a few km. That's not even sub relativistic fall
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I'm not suggesting the fall Sub-Relativistic, where did that come from?
 
384,000 km is the most generous assumption possible. You'd also need to take into account Saitama's jump, the fights, the characters, and then the fall itself. Plus the fact that the timeframe is under 1.8 seconds.

You have to cram everything into these tiny spaces.
 
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