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Anyway about they never interacted we can just use Tatsumaki as our basis here
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I guess that’s my bad then, you were talking about Boros scaling to current feats so I assumed you intended for his profile to be changed to reflect that.But I never, though? I didn't expect some changes here, I even have no intention to make a CRT. I'm just expressing my thought here.
That’s, like, not provable either way though. You can’t prove that she would struggle and I can’t prove that she wouldn’t. And you definitely can’t use a feat that never happened to say Boros > Tatsumaki.Sorry for being harsh but, you can't just shift the burden of proofs like that, Tatsumaki never move the ship, therefore, in order to say that she can move it without struggling you have to prove if she can.
I'm actually kind of careless about OPM profiles in this wiki via few reasons, I'm just here (on this thread) to enjoy discussion, but I will still try to argue if I can though.I guess that’s my bad then, you were talking about Boros scaling to current feats so I assumed you intended for his profile to be changed to reflect that.
I won't say the burden of proof is on mine too, since the S class heroes were trying so hard to take down the ship, Tatsumaki was there and she can do nothing but storming the ship until Boros and Saitama took it down.That’s, like, not provable either way though. You can’t prove that she would struggle and I can’t prove that she wouldn’t. And you definitely can’t use a feat that never happened to say Boros > Tatsumaki.
No, he really wasn’t. Orochi got mutilated by Darkshine’s kick and vomited blood from it, and Psykos said that his body became useless immediately after that, further implying that he took a significant amount of damage.and he was able to take Suoeralloy Missile
I'm quite sure that the ship's balance was sustained by that sphere-purple like crystal, not the weightAlthough technically, it is provable that Tatsumaki could easily move the ship since her LS was calced at Class P (1.15558624e16 kg) while the weight of Boros’ ship was calced at 1.60899704e14. Tats’ feat is 71.82x heavier than Boros’ ship, so yeaaaaaaah
I mean, we didn’t really see what she was doing after she damaged the ship, so it’s not like you can say for sure that she was struggling.I won't say the burden of proof is on mine too, since the S class heroes were trying so hard to take down the ship, Tatsumaki was there and she can do nothing but storming the ship until Boros and Saitama took it down.
Let's change that "struggle" to "can't" without feat. Anyway let's agree to disagree.I mean, we didn’t really see what she was doing after she damaged the ship, so it’s not like you can say for sure that she was struggling.
After that Tatsumaki say's it's still not over, and proving that, right after, Orochi looked fine right after. Tatsumaki had to use a 6-C attack to finish him. (Also the reason he was bleeding was because of the Beeline Slash, not Superalloy Missle, we can see the impact from the Missle at the top.)No, he really wasn’t. Orochi got mutilated by Darkshine’s kick and vomited blood from it, and Psykos said that his body became useless immediately after that, further implying that he took a significant amount of damage.
Obviously it’s “not over,” he’s not dead lol. That doesn’t mean he tanked those attacks and should scale to them.After that Tatsumaki say's it's still not over
He has blood dripping from two of his mouths, and it looks like his eyes are bleeding too. I wouldn’t call that “fine.”Orochi looked fine right after
Yes… and the impact caused him to spit up blood. The Atomic Beeline Slash is definitely not what caused him to vomit blood several pages later.Also the reason he was bleeding was because of the Beeline Slash, not Superalloy Missle, we can see the impact from the Missle at the top.
And that attack completely shredded him and reduced him to almost nothing, not sure what point you’re trying to make here.Tatsumaki had to use a 6-C attack to finish him
Yeah the only thing that cracked it was Csrc and Serious Punch.I think the gravity core thing was anime only.
Although it would make a nice posthoc justification as to why she couldn’t bring down the ship.
Let's even say that Orochi was bleeding because of Bang and Bomb's attacks, based off of your logic, Fubuki and Garou shouldn't scale to Rover even though they were both in worse conditions than Orochi was.Obviously it’s “not over,” he’s not dead lol. That doesn’t mean he tanked those attacks and should scale to them.
He has blood dripping from two of his mouths, and it looks like his eyes are bleeding too. I wouldn’t call that “fine.”
Yes… and the impact caused him to spit up blood. The Atomic Beeline Slash is definitely not what caused him to vomit blood several pages later.
And that attack completely shredded him and reduced him to almost nothing, not sure what point you’re trying to make here.
Also when Tatsumaki took a hit from Orochi, her aura was up so that wouldn’t scale to her physical dura anyways.
Yeah. The Csrc that touched the ship vaporized it if it's relavent.The moon jump is the first thing to force the ship to move a bit, and the clash between CSRC and Serious punch is what finally breaks it.
First of all, I said it was because of Darkshine’s attack, not Bang and Bomb’s. Second of all, Garou and Fubuki were not in worse shape at all. Well, maybe Garou was (and I’m not opposed to not scaling him from Rover, so…), but Fubuki definitely wasn’t. Orochi’s entire body was mutilated by Darkshine’s strike, he still had a roughly humanoid shape before being hit by the Superalloy Missile. When that hit him, his body caved in and was reduced to a blob of flesh. Fubuki was just profusely bleeding from blocking Rover’s attack (which, by the way, is not the same situation in the slightest).Let's even say that Orochi was bleeding because of Bang and Bomb's attacks, based off of your logic, Fubuki and Garou shouldn't scale to Rover even though they were both in worse conditions than Orochi was.
Yes. Things that have been removed in the redraws are no longer canon and not applicable.I don’t think the pre-redraw stuff would be considered canon anymore? Not really sure tbh
I don't know shit about calcs, and even I could tell that orochi's new feat was very impressive. Don't know what the hell Zhoniin is smoking.Just saw Zhoniin's review of the chapter (And the comments) and yeah, we all guessed, he wasn't really impressed by Orochi's feat. Without all the math behind it, some shockwaves and energy from the Earth's core isn't as impressive as cutting a continent or, what I believe still is the biggest feat on people's mind (outside of Saitama), destroying the surface of the Planet. I believe they even see the Moon Kick as something more impressive
Interesting huh lol
Zhoniin just has no idea when it comes to quantifying power levels. If he sees Z city being twisted up, he'll assume that's a city level feat roughly on par with fragmenting Houston. If he sees Psykorochi lift a continent- it's continent level. If you've watched his videos you'll notice he always goes "I don't know" when he has to get precise about large scale feats.I don't know shit about calcs, and even I could tell that orochi's new feat was very impressive. Don't know what the hell Zhoniin is smoking.
That'd be calc stacking I believe.would calcing how fast metal bat ran from the falling ship and then applying that to the time he took to traverse z-city be a legitimate calc, cuz that could significantly upgrade the radius or is it calc stacking
i mean in the past, there was a calc regarding boros ships bullets who were first ang-sized to calc the speed and then they used that to calc the AP of the bullets and that was accepted, whats the diffrence the movment speed of a object and a character?That'd be calc stacking I believe.
Yeah its this. As an example image made by Ryu here's a picture of EarthI feel like that's more or less how author's view their character's feats. If three characters are shown destroying mountains, one by slicing them in half, another by pulverizing it with a punch and a third one by melting it with flames, the author will think they did a good job portraying the characters as equal " mountain busters" but in terms of calced results these methods vary a lot.
I'd say no. It seems unnecessaryI was wondering here, is there any rule that prevents us from profiling the original and redesigned version?
Like, create a pre-redraw and post-redraw key for the characters?
So we're left with a worthy version of Orochi as a great villain before the redesign and a dignified version, but with a low 5-B attack?