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Anyway about they never interacted we can just use Tatsumaki as our basis here
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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I guess that’s my bad then, you were talking about Boros scaling to current feats so I assumed you intended for his profile to be changed to reflect that.
That’s, like, not provable either way though. You can’t prove that she would struggle and I can’t prove that she wouldn’t. And you definitely can’t use a feat that never happened to say Boros > Tatsumaki.
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Although technically, it is provable that Tatsumaki could easily move the ship since her LS was calced at Class P (1.15558624e16 kg) while the weight of Boros’ ship was calced at 1.60899704e14. Tats’ feat is 71.82x heavier than Boros’ ship, so yeaaaaaaah
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I'm actually kind of careless about OPM profiles in this wiki via few reasons, I'm just here (on this thread) to enjoy discussion, but I will still try to argue if I can though.
I won't say the burden of proof is on mine too, since the S class heroes were trying so hard to take down the ship, Tatsumaki was there and she can do nothing but storming the ship until Boros and Saitama took it down.
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No, he really wasn’t. Orochi got mutilated by Darkshine’s kick and vomited blood from it, and Psykos said that his body became useless immediately after that, further implying that he took a significant amount of damage.
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I'm quite sure that the ship's balance was sustained by that sphere-purple like crystal, not the weight
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I mean, we didn’t really see what she was doing after she damaged the ship, so it’s not like you can say for sure that she was struggling.
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Let's change that "struggle" to "can't" without feat. Anyway let's agree to disagree.
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We really don't know it Tats could move the ship tbh. The weight is one thing but the gravity core would have to be overpowered as well that was keeping it floating.
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After that Tatsumaki say's it's still not over, and proving that, right after, Orochi looked fine right after. Tatsumaki had to use a 6-C attack to finish him. (Also the reason he was bleeding was because of the Beeline Slash, not Superalloy Missle, we can see the impact from the Missle at the top.)
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I think the gravity core thing was anime only.
Although it would make a nice posthoc justification as to why she couldn’t bring down the ship.
Although it would make a nice posthoc justification as to why she couldn’t bring down the ship.
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Obviously it’s “not over,” he’s not dead lol. That doesn’t mean he tanked those attacks and should scale to them.
He has blood dripping from two of his mouths, and it looks like his eyes are bleeding too. I wouldn’t call that “fine.”
Yes… and the impact caused him to spit up blood. The Atomic Beeline Slash is definitely not what caused him to vomit blood several pages later.
And that attack completely shredded him and reduced him to almost nothing, not sure what point you’re trying to make here.
Also when Tatsumaki took a hit from Orochi, her aura was up so that wouldn’t scale to her physical dura anyways.
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Yeah the only thing that cracked it was Csrc and Serious Punch.
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Murata did imply Tats couldn't easily bring down the ship, if she could. Could be some justification for upscaling Boros.
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Let's even say that Orochi was bleeding because of Bang and Bomb's attacks, based off of your logic, Fubuki and Garou shouldn't scale to Rover even though they were both in worse conditions than Orochi was.
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Yeah. The Csrc that touched the ship vaporized it if it's relavent.
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First of all, I said it was because of Darkshine’s attack, not Bang and Bomb’s. Second of all, Garou and Fubuki were not in worse shape at all. Well, maybe Garou was (and I’m not opposed to not scaling him from Rover, so…), but Fubuki definitely wasn’t. Orochi’s entire body was mutilated by Darkshine’s strike, he still had a roughly humanoid shape before being hit by the Superalloy Missile. When that hit him, his body caved in and was reduced to a blob of flesh. Fubuki was just profusely bleeding from blocking Rover’s attack (which, by the way, is not the same situation in the slightest).
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I was wondering here, is there any rule that prevents us from profiling the original and redesigned version?
Like, create a pre-redraw and post-redraw key for the characters?
So we're left with a worthy version of Orochi as a great villain before the redesign and a dignified version, but with a low 5-B attack?
Like, create a pre-redraw and post-redraw key for the characters?
So we're left with a worthy version of Orochi as a great villain before the redesign and a dignified version, but with a low 5-B attack?
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I don’t think the pre-redraw stuff would be considered canon anymore? Not really sure tbh
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Think of it as an alternate universe
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I remember someone wanting a pre-redraw Phoenix Man key, that would scale to the Emperor Nova
It was rejected
It was rejected
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Yes. Things that have been removed in the redraws are no longer canon and not applicable.
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This is... Disappointing...
But I think it's ok... It would be fun to have the characters with two keys.
But I think it's ok... It would be fun to have the characters with two keys.
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Just saw Zhoniin's review of the chapter (And the comments) and yeah, we all guessed, he wasn't really impressed by Orochi's feat. Without all the math behind it, some shockwaves and energy from the Earth's core isn't as impressive as cutting a continent or, what I believe still is the biggest feat on people's mind (outside of Saitama), destroying the surface of the Planet. I believe they even see the Moon Kick as something more impressive
Interesting huh lol
Interesting huh lol
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I don't know shit about calcs, and even I could tell that orochi's new feat was very impressive. Don't know what the hell Zhoniin is smoking.
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Zhoniin just has no idea when it comes to quantifying power levels. If he sees Z city being twisted up, he'll assume that's a city level feat roughly on par with fragmenting Houston. If he sees Psykorochi lift a continent- it's continent level. If you've watched his videos you'll notice he always goes "I don't know" when he has to get precise about large scale feats.
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I feel like that's more or less how author's view their character's feats. If three characters are shown destroying mountains, one by slicing them in half, another by pulverizing it with a punch and a third one by melting it with flames, the author will think they did a good job portraying the characters as equal " mountain busters" but in terms of calced results these methods vary a lot.
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That'd be calc stacking I believe.
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i mean in the past, there was a calc regarding boros ships bullets who were first ang-sized to calc the speed and then they used that to calc the AP of the bullets and that was accepted, whats the diffrence the movment speed of a object and a character?
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Yeah its this. As an example image made by Ryu here's a picture of Earth
I'm entirely sure that if asked Murata/ONE would likely say the CSRC is still the strongest attack shown in the series outside of Saitama, because visually its so much larger and better. But math wise Neuron Psykos and Orochi's things are comparable or better.
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I think it would be cool to have a pre-redraw key for certain characters like Orochi and Phoenix Man.
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I'd say no. It seems unnecessary
