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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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got bored so here you guys go:
Strongest one punch man discussion thread
Strongest one punch man discussion thread
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He was a B-class only for 41 days. So yes, you are right.
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lost notifs again bruh
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yeah
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if it could be calced, would the speed of SP^2 affect top tiers?
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Why? No one scales to it.
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I do. I scale to it. It's MY feat.
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Yes. I mean the statement and the feat is clear, no?
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There was a CRT like that in the past and it got rejected. The argument was that it is just a metaphor.
Edit: The CRT.
A good odd is that it will just be whatever Void's attack speed is, meaning nothing changes much. We probably don't even get MFTL+. Though, we know it is much faster than Blast can dodge by foot.
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"The argument was that it is just a metaphor." wait this got accepted? or it was accepted that it was undodgeable?
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The thread wanted to establish that it was immeasurable speed, which is wrong.
It is punching while travelling back in time, which I think would require immeasurable speed to evade as the attack itself comes from the future
To put it simple: Saitama starts time travelling using what Garou taught him. Then, while travelling back in time, he decides when to stop by punching. If said punch is directed to someone, then he punches from that time travelling state and hits the being. It is causality reversal because the attack was thrown when travelling back, i.e., the cause (Saitama throwing a punch) comes after the effect (the punch connecting), and is unavoidable because of that: you cannot evade something that hits you before it is even landed.
Consequently, all speeds up to infinite should not be able to evade it, as what the perceive is the consequence of the attack: them getting punched, not the cause of the attack (Saitama landing a punch). That is why it should require immeasurable speed to evade, imo
It is punching while travelling back in time, which I think would require immeasurable speed to evade as the attack itself comes from the future
To put it simple: Saitama starts time travelling using what Garou taught him. Then, while travelling back in time, he decides when to stop by punching. If said punch is directed to someone, then he punches from that time travelling state and hits the being. It is causality reversal because the attack was thrown when travelling back, i.e., the cause (Saitama throwing a punch) comes after the effect (the punch connecting), and is unavoidable because of that: you cannot evade something that hits you before it is even landed.
Consequently, all speeds up to infinite should not be able to evade it, as what the perceive is the consequence of the attack: them getting punched, not the cause of the attack (Saitama landing a punch). That is why it should require immeasurable speed to evade, imo
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Oh i remember that one, ok. I thought it wasn't even accepted to be undodgeable.
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Unless I missed something from that thread, no
It'd be dumb not to treat an attack that is stated to be undodgeable due to causality reversal… as undodgeable due to causality reversal lol
It'd be dumb not to treat an attack that is stated to be undodgeable due to causality reversal… as undodgeable due to causality reversal lol
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It was rejected not accepted. It is even against the notion that you need immeasurable speed to dodge it rather than just being faster than the punch. It was like Saitama appeared next to Garou and threw the punch.
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It's not immeasurable speed but i don't remember anything about "being undodgeable" getting rejected? couldn't find a thread about it as well.
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Uh, no? Saitama did not appear next to Garou and threw the punch, he threw the punch when still time travelling, said punch hit Garou, and then Saitama appeared there, due to him stopping time travelling
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Why do you think it's undodgeable then. What's stopping someone 100 times faster than Saitama dodging it?
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You can bump the thread and argue there. I was just pointing the arguments presented in the thread. I'm not here to argue for or against it.
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The fact that the punch did hit before it was landed.
Saitama was travelling back in time when he threw the punch. If we use a time graph to show it:
t=10 – Saitama starts to travel back in time
t=9 – Saitama is travelling back in time. Consequently, the time goes backwards
t=8
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t=1 – Saitama throws a punch to Garou
t=0 – The punch connects to Garou
The punch connecting happens before the punch being thrown, thus reversing causality (as common causality follows cause being before effect) and being unavoidable. One being 100 times could not evade said punch, because he wouldn't perceive the punch coming, as the hit happens before the punch's throw.
You could think of it as something similar to Gae Bolg's ability from fate, in which the effect (Gae Bolg piercing someone's heart) is written before the cause of the attack.
That does, indeed, need immeasurable speed to be avoided (or be a Servant and have so high luck you just evade something that is not thrown, lmao)
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Only Saitama will scale
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The thread argued for immeasurable speed, which it isn't.
It is throwing a punch when travelling back in time. If the CRT was about arguing that "anyone a little faster than Saitama could evade being punched" then yeah, I'd definitely argue against it
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You can probably argue in the thread. Currently, I don't think it's accepted that Saitama time travel punch is undodgeable and requires immeasurable speed to dodge rather than simply having enough speed.
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I mean, that is how punching while travelling backward in time works, there is no need to explicitely put it in a page or state "it is accepted". If you get punched before the punch is even thrown, it doesn't matter if you try to evade the cause, as the effect has affected you already.
If I want to evade a gun shot to avoid the damage, but the bullet already pierced me before it is even shot, then dodging it when thrown is meaningless, and avoid the bullet piercing me is impossible as it has already pierced me.
If I want to evade a gun shot to avoid the damage, but the bullet already pierced me before it is even shot, then dodging it when thrown is meaningless, and avoid the bullet piercing me is impossible as it has already pierced me.
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It's just not immeasurable speed. It is still undodgeable.
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It definitely needs a note if Saitama ever used it in versus battles. Because people on the thread were acting like what I said earlier. They don't think it is undodgable at all.
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If people argued that, then they need to rewatch the manga
And if I did read and agree with that –which honestly I don't remember rn–, then ig I'm just dumb lol
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Never saw that but really? wow d:
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It looks that way to me. Perhaps it doesn't? Honestly, to make sure, someone just ask whether you need immeasurable speed to dodge the punch in the thread.
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