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Damn, Orochi fight got redrawn again
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I too have the narrative implication that comes with golden sperm being much more muscular (which is specifically pointed out by Iaian) and brute strength type while plat is always portrayed as a bigger threat because of his speed and mind.
And the scaling contradictions don’t exist either
Oh they do exist, but I'm too lazy/busy/both actually to bring every statement and manga panel
 
we're gonna have to give Atomic Samurai his rela+ reactions
along with "far higher with atomic slash"
Atomic Samurai blatantly reacted to the laser and we sorta like to pretend he didn't cause we're scared of oooo black sperm ftl etc.
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to be frank, this whole problem with "uhhh the inconsistencies we can't have rela+ or higher characters other than flashy flash" would be much less of an issue if we also accepted lightspeed G4 lasers, given that they're the same god damn attack
which would only result in only relativistic G4 fight genos, and would give more consistency to characters later on like black sperm and bang and bomb etc.
oh, and speaking of bang
Garou literally dodged and then fought flashy a very short time after being comparable to AB bang's speed
Silverfang being rela+ or even sol is perfectly consistent, yet right now we rate him as over 100 times slower than what it should be
Not to mention that Jet Psykos' beams would also probably be assumed to be lasers by the average reader, since they strong resemble G5's laser and get the same atomic samurai treatment, along with being shown with near instantaneous movement....
one thing I've leared offsite is that OPM is kind of a blatantly relativistic verse in the mid tiers and it's just kinda been swept under the rug because of the absolutely insane denial of sol G4 for the most part, due to misusing a somewhat stupid rule for laser feats, that should hardly apply when it was blatantly stated as being light, and is only rejected because Murata made it slightly bendy, even though there could just be a perfectly reasonable explanation such as maybe it was a god damn art choice and shouldn't be a major detriment to scaling just because it looked a tiny bit cooler that way.
But on another note, the fact that it's stated as being light and is very obviously a laser, that should solidly indicate that even if the insane vsb standards say that it isn't really light, this strange, light-like, laser-like, bright hot beam is still lightspeed even if it isn't considered real light

Anyways on another note, G5 is accepted, atomic samurai reacted to it, he should have rela+ reactions, bang and bomb should definitely be rela+ without a doubt, post darkshine garou rela+, and that would be pretty much it
and if, by some twist of fate, black sperm were to scale...
congratulations, it literally means nothing without knowing his cell counts
so yeah, this is easy enough


also far higher with atomic slash, it's described as being his greatest technique, kinda like flashy slash, which I now remember should also be a speed amp because Monster Gale Wind and Hellfire flame were fast enough to make flashy worry about them escaping if he didn't finish them both at the same time,
we kinda have way too much sloppy stuff going on with the speed scaling rn.
 
Relevance of Tatsumaki during Saitama vs Cosmic Garou: 0%
Relevance of Boros during Saitama vs Cosmic Garou: >0%
fellas, I think it’s clear who the goat is.
 
Are y'all prepared for our thread to go from 830 pages to over 2,000?
 
if that happens,we have surpassed the Bibble,and by a long shot.
 
Atomic Samurai blatantly reacted to the laser and we sorta like to pretend he didn't cause we're scared of oooo black sperm ftl etc.
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to be frank, this whole problem with "uhhh the inconsistencies we can't have rela+ or higher characters other than flashy flash" would be much less of an issue if we also accepted lightspeed G4 lasers, given that they're the same god damn attack
which would only result in only relativistic G4 fight genos, and would give more consistency to characters later on like black sperm and bang and bomb etc.
oh, and speaking of bang
Garou literally dodged and then fought flashy a very short time after being comparable to AB bang's speed
Silverfang being rela+ or even sol is perfectly consistent, yet right now we rate him as over 100 times slower than what it should be
Not to mention that Jet Psykos' beams would also probably be assumed to be lasers by the average reader, since they strong resemble G5's laser and get the same atomic samurai treatment, along with being shown with near instantaneous movement....
one thing I've leared offsite is that OPM is kind of a blatantly relativistic verse in the mid tiers and it's just kinda been swept under the rug because of the absolutely insane denial of sol G4 for the most part, due to misusing a somewhat stupid rule for laser feats, that should hardly apply when it was blatantly stated as being light, and is only rejected because Murata made it slightly bendy, even though there could just be a perfectly reasonable explanation such as maybe it was a god damn art choice and shouldn't be a major detriment to scaling just because it looked a tiny bit cooler that way.
But on another note, the fact that it's stated as being light and is very obviously a laser, that should solidly indicate that even if the insane vsb standards say that it isn't really light, this strange, light-like, laser-like, bright hot beam is still lightspeed even if it isn't considered real light

Anyways on another note, G5 is accepted, atomic samurai reacted to it, he should have rela+ reactions, bang and bomb should definitely be rela+ without a doubt, post darkshine garou rela+, and that would be pretty much it
and if, by some twist of fate, black sperm were to scale...
congratulations, it literally means nothing without knowing his cell counts
so yeah, this is easy enough


also far higher with atomic slash, it's described as being his greatest technique, kinda like flashy slash, which I now remember should also be a speed amp because Monster Gale Wind and Hellfire flame were fast enough to make flashy worry about them escaping if he didn't finish them both at the same time,
we kinda have way too much sloppy stuff going on with the speed scaling rn.
anyways if I were to make a crt for
1. Rela+ Atomic, Bang, Post Darkshine Garou, and Bomb
2. far higher with atomic slash
3. higher with flashy slash
who would be in favor of and support it, or be against it
 
anyways if I were to make a crt for
1. Rela+ Atomic, Bang, Post Darkshine Garou, and Bomb
2. far higher with atomic slash
3. higher with flashy slash
who would be in favor of and support it, or be against it
I thought Atomic Samurai was already FTL- wait only his attack speed⁉️ 😭
 
wiki’s logic


he saw the laser incoming, reacted to it and even made a commentary about it before before cutting the laser
So he has Statistics Amp for attack speed? But has anyone tried calcing his perception time at least, using the distance the beam travelled before he says his comment to get a timeframe
 
So he has Statistics Amp for attack speed? But has anyone tried calcing his perception time at least, using the distance the beam travelled before he says his comment to get a timeframe
yes but the wiki does not accept that he is ftl because their logic sucks and they really, baddly, blatantly wants to keep most of the verse at hs~mhs+ speed
this including tatsumaki and boros

just like they did with nanatsu for a loooooooong time

ryudoshel’s statement has always been the same, and after years they accepted it oof
 
yes but the wiki does not accept that he is ftl because their logic sucks and they really, baddly, blatantly wants to keep most of the verse at hs~mhs+ speed
this including tatsumaki and boros
He would blatantly have Relativistic perception from this and swinging a weapon is combat speed, not attack speed so his profile is wrong
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they’re scared because there’s a possibility of blacksperm downscaling to it, honestly with alot of reasons.

if that happens, most of the mid-tiers are going to be upgraded.
 
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