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Boros would only scale to Serious Punch with CSRC anyway. I find it unlikely that he is talking about the compus statement.He's probably talking about Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon.
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Boros would only scale to Serious Punch with CSRC anyway. I find it unlikely that he is talking about the compus statement.He's probably talking about Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon.
No. He just not that durableIt looks to me CSRC is narratively stronger than Monster Garou. Otherwise, I think they have relative physicals. You can argue Garou has better physicals for enduring CNP but the opposite can also argue the CNP used on Boros is stronger.
By "scale" I mean "downscale." The only thing that would make CSRC scale above his non-serious punches is the fact that Saitama used Serious Punch, to begin with.He doesn’t scale to the serious punch, he just upscales from all non serious punches
Possibly Tatsumaki by scaling >sonic who's somewhat equal to flash.Who will be have a next upgrade on the next incoming chapters?
I mean, yeahI'm just gonna say it, i think one punch man shows the scale much better than Dragon Ball.
I am absolutely unconvinced that Tatsumaki is as fast as or relative to flashy flashPossibly Tatsumaki by scaling >sonic who's somewhat equal to flash.
If we consider the only 2 boss fight enemies in the series thus far to be Boros and Cosmic Garou (because of their performance against Saitama) then the best we could maybe get is like the mecha Boros that metal knight obviously hasIf you mean next "new big feat" type upgrade then i have no idea since we're yet to get a new "boss level" enemy in webcomic.
Probably Metal Knight or Genos tbh.
I mean considering that Cosmic Garou's amped consecutive normal punches were able to match Saitama's consecutive normal punches with even more effort and literally scratched him, it's safe to say that they can range way above the baseline of normal punchesIt looks to me CSRC is narratively stronger than Monster Garou. Otherwise, I think they have relative physicals. You can argue Garou has better physicals for enduring CNP but the opposite can also argue the CNP used on Boros is stronger.
I assumed Metal Knight was gonna have like a giant mech suit made out of Boros' ship or something.I am absolutely unconvinced that Tatsumaki is as fast as or relative to flashy flash
If we consider the only 2 boss fight enemies in the series thus far to be Boros and Cosmic Garou (because of their performance against Saitama) then the best we could maybe get is like the mecha Boros that metal knight obviously has
Considering the webcomic lacks the powercreep from the webcomic
The fact that Genos mirrored Saitama when he destroyed the machines is what makes me convinced that Genos Prime vs Cyboros would be basedConsidering the webcomic lacks the powercreep from the webcomic then i won't deny a "Boros II" could be possible. (Imagine if he ends up being Genos's opponent to showcase his growth.)
There's also a theory that according to Shibabawa's prophecy every month will have a major threat until the calamity day is up and god appears, so we're in time for a new Boss enemy.
No. Saitama has defeated enemies/attacks that were much larger than the CSRC (Beefcake, Orochi...) with normal punches. So, this is not the EC/ EOW case. Saitama used a SP because of CSRC's power. Otherwise, he would have used a normal punch. Area of Effect is not a factor here.He made him do it because otherwise a bunch of people would die. High AOE vs low AOE attack.
I mean, those are not good examples. He defeated Beefcake without taking care of the enviroment and caused a destruction of a city as consequence. And with Orochi, he used a serious move too to take care of the beam attack.No. Saitama has defeated enemies/attacks that were much larger than the CSRC (Beefcake, Orochi...) with normal punches.
It comes from CSRC (which Boros' physicals don't scale to, although they probably aren't thousands of times weaker) being stated to be star level in the anime databook. I know people on this site don't like to mix the manga and the anime (although I personally don't treat them as different continuities), so I didn't want to bring it up. Since Boros' latent energy (probably referring to his Released state) is stated to be able to blow up planets, and Meteoric Burst is much stronger than him, it wouldn't make sense that the second "Hoshi" term referred to "planet" as well, making that statement weaker than the Released form statement. Since it is written twice, the first time referring to a weaker form and the second one referring to a stronger form, I'd confidently say that using "star" is not a mistranslation, but a logical conclusion. It also says that Saitama is clobbered, so take that as you will.Let me guess. The star-level argument comes from Garou's consecutive normal punches which scratched Saitama, right? I have been thinking for a while about using it to upgrade Monster Garou but it seems it is also weirdly consistent with Boros' statements (Such as forcing Saitama to use Serious Punch)
They're not canon. That text on the cover page isn't in the Japanese volumes either. Nothing to do with Viz removing them.The covers are always erased by Viz but that doesn't mean they are not canon.
The argument is that he has killed much bigger beings/ attacks that CSRC without needing to use SP. SP is reserved for extra big opponents that require a huge AOE and for extra strong attacks.I mean, those are not good examples. He defeated Beefcake without taking care of the enviroment and caused a destruction of a city as consequence. And with Orochi, he used a serious move too to take care of the beam attack.
And they don't appear in the covers for the spanish official releases too lolThey're not canon. That text on the cover page isn't in the Japanese volumes either. Nothing to do with Viz removing them.
Can you show me that? I'm pretty sure Kristian Kember (a OPM youtube powerscaler) said in the japanese release it was there.They're not canon. That text on the cover page isn't in the Japanese volumes either. Nothing to do with Viz removing them.
Those statements are generally added in by editors, not the original authors. They're not part of the canon manga and the fact that they're not included in the volumes should be enough proof for that. I don't have the Japanese volume on hand but I'm sure it would be possible to check that.Can you show me that? I'm pretty sure Kristian Kember (a OPM youtube powerscaler) said in the japanese release it was there.
That aside, why are those statements (like the one saying FF is faster than light on a cover) not considered canon? After all, ONE and Murata have seen the chapter before it gets submitted online, and I'm pretty sure the reason that the text is removed is not because the statements may be innacurate, but because of design choices for the volumes, like wanting the covers to look clean.
And that argument is meant to be taken together with all the other arguments that pretty consistently put Released Boros on a higher place that he is.
The AOE is a factor because if he hadn't used some of his power, the attack would have just blasted out all around him and killed a ton of people.No. Saitama has defeated enemies/attacks that were much larger than the CSRC (Beefcake, Orochi...) with normal punches. So, this is not the EC/ EOW case. Saitama used a SP because of CSRC's power. Otherwise, he would have used a normal punch. Area of Effect is not a factor here.
Your image of the CSRC is that of Saitama splitting it and the explosion making the ship look small, but actually when Boros fired it, it was barely bigger than himself because it was a condensated energy attack, as was Gaia Cannon, which initially was a giant ball of fire from the nucleus of the Earth and ended up being barely bigger than Saitama.
Also I do believe that csrc should be capable of maybe making a tiny visible scratch on saitama or some equivalent of that, had it really been able to land directly on him in its entirety rather than being split by his punchI consider the cover text to be like 5% to 10% as compelling as more traditional evidence
like for example, Flashy Flash being ftl was pretty obvious, and a cover supported it, and Saitama benching two black holes is pretty consistent with the fact that it’s literally a weaker feat than the table flip
though there are things like darkshine being stated to be the hardest, and Garou stated to be the most terrifying, while moments before then a cover called Tornado the most Terrifying and Psykos the most evil, and then moments after said cover it calls Orochi the most evil.
And then it calls Psyrochi ugly which is disprovable via many scans.
along with also calling darkshine the strongest and toughest again
however, in the case of the he took damage statement, it's definitely closer to the 10% than 5% for a few reasons
Most panel covers in more recent chapters tend to be unrelated graphics with unrelated statements that are more obvious hyperbole
but the Boros thing isn't nearly the same
it's a quite blatant and rare case of the cover text just blatantly saying what happened in the story, it is literally just a statement going "he took damage" and that's it.
With "darkshine is the toughest around" I could definitely see Murata absolutely waffling and just throwing a bs statement there, but "he took damage" isn't flowery, it's just exposition. It was written with undeniable intent, because you don't just write that cause you think it sounded fancy or something or just cool
and it's supported by more too is the weird thing, released Boros was stated to have rivaling abilities and put him on the defensive in the guidebook, though that's easily countered by saying it only applies to normal Saitama and has nothing to do with him when he puts in more effort as the fight goes on.
Now there are real problems with this, like the fact that going by the anime only meteoric burst Boros was able to sort of clobber Saitama, when that's far over 2x stronger than released Boros
^a note about that, Meteoric Burst is really just the physicals of released Boros but combined with and propelled by his latent energy beams
so realistically it's at the very least closer to a 10x than a 2x multiplier, but besides that
Meteoric Burst Boros being able to even almost downscale from normal saitama's durability is something that can be argued, especially considering the fact that a consecutive normal punches from cosmic garou equivalent to his own at the time was capable of scratching him
but considering that released Boros is potentially far more than 2x weaker, it's very weird that he'd be able to do this.
But at the same time, if you argue that it's just super super tiny chip damage, it's almost possible, maybe
especially since he was convinced he could chip at Saitama's health after he had knocked off his arm taken the latent energy blast, though physically much weaker
so is "he took damage" Bullshit? It's a hard thing to answer really, I'm more inclined to believing that it means something, but I am sure that it really can't be considered traditional damage that would be enough for even downscaling on any site
however, it could be argued to simply put Boros far above any other opponents saitama has besides garou who he has been able to be completely effortlessly unharmed against to even the extent of the most bare minimum chip damage and being considered strong or taking a normal punch, or even being able to take a suppressed punch without any killing intent without being overpowered and ragdolled
ahem
but that's pretty much my full analysis of the situation at hand and is sorta how I treat things offsite too I guess.
That's it.
Can you show me that? I'm pretty sure Kristian Kember (a OPM youtube powerscaler) said in the japanese release it was there.
That aside, why are those statements (like the one saying FF is faster than light on a cover) not considered canon? After all, ONE and Murata have seen the chapter before it gets submitted online, and I'm pretty sure the reason that the text is removed is not because the statements may be innacurate, but because of design choices for the volumes, like wanting the covers to look clean.
And that argument is meant to be taken together with all the other arguments that pretty consistently put Released Boros on a higher place that he is.
Yeah, I can see that but Saitama's scalp friction won't allow it lol.Possibly Tatsumaki by scaling >sonic who's somewhat equal to flash.
If you mean next "new big feat" type upgrade then i have no idea since we're yet to get a new "boss level" enemy in webcomic.
Probably Metal Knight or Genos tbh.
1- theres even a statement that he would take hours to kill all humanity, wake up to reality.1- He doesn't, he could kill all humanity without resorting to CSRC, as stated in various sites. He uses all of his REMAINING energy, which is not his full energy, and yet the only thing that affects him is the ability to regenerate (that's why he didn't survive against Saitama in the first place), but he would be fine after firing it.
2- Psykorochi literally couldn't, because she was fodder to Tatsumaki, and Boros is stated to be able to end humanity if Saitama isn't there. Orochi is below Psykorochi so he is fodder.
3- Sage and EOW are much more ambiguous, but since Saitama treated Garou as a joke and said Boros was almost a real fight, he is definitely stronger.
4- Boros is not multicontinental, he has a planet level statement and an arguable star level (I won't get into why it is actually star level). His CRSC aforced Saitama to use SP, which is above CNP against Cosmic Garou, but definitely below the SP from SP2 and probably below GRB since the attack wasn't aiming at the Earth. Also, statements saying that he can destroy a planet don't mean that Boros caps at that level. And statements that he could destroy the surface together with Saitama (whose durability is leagues above Meteoric Burst) don't mean Boros caps at surface level either because Saitama is involved in the equation.
Cry all you want, Boros is stated to be able to end humanity, so he solos teh S class (and obviously Tatsumaki) if Saitama weren't there.
factsTatsumaki wouldnt do shit to Boros. Tatsumaki is just a random character that was created to show that the S class was weaker than the villains Saitama beats like Boros. She isn’t and never was relevant to Saitama, so she'll never be as strong as someone as Boros and that’s common sense. You just don’t want to assume this because he has no dick.
Remember he she was stated to to be the strongest by those databooks? Don’t forget. To mention only what is convenient is too easy.
you are so desperate to scale boros to anything you can that you’re using webcomic’s one decade old statement?Did you miss the part where ONE himself literally did that in the webcomic
you may have also missed the part where ONE also retroactively buffed Boros in the anime on top of that
Iirc Saitama recently said that no enemy was relevant to him. You can cry ziller.facts
Boros did pretty good against SaitamaAlso, Boros did no better agains’t Saitama than what Tatsumaki did. She is a hero, the fight style was OBVIOUSLY difference and not focused in destroying the earth.