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yeahFor giving him electricity manipulation?
Why is its durability High 6-A then..?One-Punch Man: Spaceship
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We scale it to the actual jump, not the rotation. This is just the level the rotation is at.
What about this though?The crater is more LS than AP anyways, as it's a result of the force of his legs pushing downwards, and not an impact.
essentially the logic used is that saitama jumped with enough force to make god's crater (gonna call it this from now on) and therefore landed with that force, which the ship was able to withstand without saitama breaking a hole through the ceiling.Why is its durability High 6-A then..?
Honestly, that makes sense.Timmy, thoughts?
Last time I checked the ship’s energy was calced when Saitama caused it to fall.What do you mean?
That's not AP.essentially the logic used is that saitama jumped with enough force to make god's crater
I mean it's debatable if LS is the right thing to say here, since Saitama isn't heavy (unless you're tatsumaki lmao), especially not on the moon, the only reason it really formed was because of the extremely fast propulsion of his legsThat's not AP.
Like I said, I don't really have an opinion.What about this though?
Compressing it right?I forgot to calculate Tatsumaki pulverizing that landmass. Is there a method in crushing something until its pulverized or do I just do basic pulverization of rock?
Yeah, that's LS.mean it's debatable if LS is the right thing to say here, since Saitama isn't heavy (unless you're tatsumaki lmao), especially not on the moon, the only reason it really formed was because of the extremely fast propulsion of his legs
YeahCompressing it right?
I’ll just use this method here.I think it'd be inferior to pulverization, since the values we use for pulverization, fragmentation, etc are already based on stuff like sheer and compressive strength.
An old calc thread that went on for far too long to determine which Saitama-impacts-spaceship calc to use. We ended up going with the moon crater because of something @Therefir saidWhy is its durability High 6-A then..?
I adressed that in my other comment.He said Saitama was many times stronger than him for destroying it, so definitely not.
Do you even know what my argument is? I know that scaling Bang to the meteor might be stretching it considering he was prepared to die but hear me out. At the beginning of OVA 4, Bang is seen thinking about what would have happened if he has used WSRSF against the meteor. Later in the episode, he claims that he could have defeated Saitama about 200 times in the shop. Even towards the end of the episode, he contemplates who would win between him and Saitama.
The problem is that the first point about him being prepared to die still is there. And he was thinking about attacking Saitama while off guard in the shop which explains why he was unsure about who would win later on. He also has a statement where he says Saitama is far stronger than him. All of these imply that rather than scaling directly, Bang would only scale to the meteor through WSRSF. And there are barely any characters who scale to that besides Garou. It is possible to scale Darkshine since Garou claims not even Bang's WSRSF could deflect Darkshine's attack but it might create contradictions.
Therefir literally did not say anything. Everyone just changed their mind from agreeing with Mathew saying a lot of energy was lost to disagreeing with him, which resulted in Moon Jump scaling getting readded. I'll make a new CRT soon to remove the ship's durability scaling.We ended up going with the moon crater because of something @Therefir said
?I'll make a new CRT soon to remove the ship's durability scaling.
I was referring to stuff like this and this, but sureTherefir literally did not say anything. Everyone just changed their mind from agreeing with Mathew saying a lot of energy was lost to disagreeing with him, which resulted in Moon Jump scaling getting readded. I'll make a new CRT soon to remove the ship's durability scaling.
I think Saitama landed with the same amount of force with which he jumped, or at least that was the intention the manga was trying to portray
Removing the ship scaling to the crater, as it's not an AP feat.
I think it might just be artistic flair, iirc HE and Choze energy blasts do the same thing but they are just heat blastsalright then a quick change of pace
this appears to be electricity coming off of rover's explosions
think it's worth a shot?
It’s a lifting and ap feat, if I swing a giant sword at hypersonic sonic speeds it would apply to my ap and LS.Removing the ship scaling to the crater, as it's not an AP feat.
Cool, so the OVA is just wrong because he himself admits frequently in the manga that that Saitama is way out of his league.I adressed that in my other comment.
Here to tell you we actually don't and don't try and pull a whataboutism with JoJo, I see that shit everytime.Also temperature feats are used in jojo
The issue here is that HE blasts are explosions and not just a temperature featHere to tell you we actually don't and don't try and pull a whataboutism with JoJo, I see that shit everytime.
O,nly Avdol's are used for scaling due to explicit other reasoning involving Plat and stuff.
We don't use Pet Shop or White Album's freezing feats for example for anyone but them.
I'm not part of that conversation.The issue here is that HE blasts are explosions and not just a temperature feat
But they’re just fireballs. Not once or ever are they referenced to be shockwaves and there’s nothing alluding to the impact vaporizing the ground when we see the fireball is what causes this destruction.The issue here is that HE blasts are explosions and not just a temperature feat
And how would you get AP from this other than KE?It’s a lifting and ap feat, if I swing a giant sword at hypersonic sonic speeds it would apply to my ap and LS.
The actual destruction would also scale to his AP.And how would you get AP from this other than KE?
Why?The actual destruction would also scale to his AP.
zoinksI'm not part of that conversation.
I'm just calling Ziller for whipping out some bullshit.
Yes, in strength. I am not trying to upgrade Bang's physicals though. He would still have High 7-C durability, striking strength, AP, etc. I am suggesting something along the lines of "up to High 6-C with WSRSF."Cool, so the OVA is just wrong because he himself admits frequently in the manga that that Saitama is way out of his league.
In a fight. He says Saitama wasn't paying attention to his surroundings and he is naive. Then follows up by saying he could defeat him about 200 times in the span of his shopping time according to his mental simulations.As for defeating 200 times, what does this even mean? Like in a fight, in a competition?
What wouldn't have worked? Trying to fight against him? He doesn't admit anything of sorts as far as I remember. When Saitama tries to fight instead, he says that has no intention to fight to the death over a game.Firstly, didn't he admit it wouldn't have worked?
Exactly my point. If Garou's incomplete WSRSF can do that, then why Bang can't deflect an attack far above his league?Secondly, even Human Garou's WSRF could deflect attacks capable of ******* him up.
Then that's one weird way to word it. Especially considering he was using the very same technique.Garou is referring to the technique itself, not actually Bang's own WSRF.
I am aware of that sequence but it was in a sparring match. It is unlikely that either was taking it seriously. Darkshine already states that he didn't take any damage and was mostly the aggressor. And since Bang was initially holding back against a monster like Melzalgald, I can't see him taking a spar so seriously. He also has amps such as Abandonment and Awakening Breath, to boot.
Following this line of thinking alongside the previous one creates a contradiction. If Garou thinks the WSRSF technique isn't strong enough to deflect Darkshine, then how come Bang's version can? It would only work if Garou was talking about a level of WSRSF above his own level but below Bang's which doesn't make any sense. (Or he was specifically talking about his own WSRSF which is even weirder way to put it)DS implies that the only reason Garou couldn't was because he didn't have that level of experience.
Yes, in strength. I am not trying to upgrade Bang's physicals though. He would still have High 7-C durability, striking strength, AP, etc. I am suggesting something along the lines of "up to High 6-C with WSRSF."
WSRF isn't AP as such when it comes to deflection. It's taking advantage of inferior technique.Exactly my point. If Garou's incomplete WSRSF can do that, then why Bang can't deflect an attack far above his league?
I was misremembering something from the OVA so nevermind.What wouldn't have worked? Trying to fight against him? He doesn't admit anything of sorts as far as I remember. When Saitama tries to fight instead, he says that has no intention to fight to the death over a game.
Not in context. Garou hates Bang and he hates using the WSRF (something Bang invented) at all, so he simply regards it as Bang's technique.Then that's one weird way to word it. Especially considering he was using the very same technique.
Darkshine has stated that even he doesn't know how to harm himself, and is shown to be physically superior to Bang. Him taking no damage doesn't contradict any of my points because base Bang literally can't damage him.I am aware of that sequence but it was in a sparring match. It is unlikely that either was taking it seriously. Darkshine already states that he didn't take any damage and was mostly the aggressor.
Abandonment isn't an amp, and Awakened Breath is something he only ever uses in life or death scenarios.And since Bang was initially holding back against a monster like Melzalgald, I can't see him taking a spar so seriously. He also has amps such as Abandonment and Awakening Breath, to boot.
Simple. Bang is far more experienced and superior to Garou physically. I don't see a contradiction here.Following this line of thinking alongside the previous one creates a contradiction. If Garou thinks the WSRSF technique isn't strong enough to deflect Darkshine, then how come Bang's version can?
Garou being able to perform a CFDSF doesn't mean he's superior to Bang and Bomb individually at those techniques, just that he can impossibly combine them. We later see Bang and Bomb match Garou at these same individual techniques after his skills and strength increase dramatically.I think we should just discard Darkshine's take entirely considering he doesn't know a thing about martial arts. Not to mention, Garou performs CFDSF moments later.