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PogRecalced this.
Upgrade from Hypersonic to Massively Hypersonic. I will put it in a blog to be evaluated soon.
That's in the process of getting changed.why are we scaling everyone and their mothers to in-training saitama?
I have an issue with that reasoning.If it's based on the entire distance, I already addressed that in the blog.
In the blog, you said that due to the Martial Artists being able to talk while Suiryu and Choze were moving fast, the full distance can not be used.What issue?
Your logic not being appeal to reality doesn't counter anything I said.That's not an appeal to reality fallacy. It's literally the opposite, if anything.
The timeframe within the manga itself doesn't line up with the timeframe drawn from real life.
Like what? Where is someone who can't keep up speaking in between a massive blitz.
Your first comment above doesn't even counter anything to begin with.Your logic not being appeal to reality doesn't counter anything I said.
No reason to go there unless you want to be laughed at
If we go by this then Garou and Platinum Sperm's light constellation manga timeframe of 1.3 milliseconds shouldn't be used, as it's contradicted by King noticing it happen, even though Normal Human Perception peaks at 130 millisecondsThe timeframe within the manga itself doesn't line up with the timeframe drawn from real life.
Another W I’m liking this threadOh yeah. I’m perma-banned from the Baki subreddit because someone made a Deku vs Yujiro thread, and I said Deku wouldn’t get stomped.
All the stars disappearWhat if the upcoming redraw buffs the feat
Garou's limiter was kinda stated to have been broken already...Hmm.
Since God decides what a limiter is and literally creates them according to Genus, and Garou is now his ”avatar”, does that mean Garou probably doesn’t have a limiter right now?
Remember, removing a limiter doesn’t automatically grant infinite power. It’s just a cap of the POTENTIAL growth they can achieve by training. But Garou now seems pretty confident in being able to get stronger and stronger simply by copying Saitama with no apparently downsides yet.
Hmmmm.
Firstly, that's not based on a timeframe drawn from real life and applied to the manga. This is you attempting to create a contradiction by drawing comparisons to real life. If anything, this would actually support my point.If we go by this then Garou and Platinum Sperm's light constellation manga timeframe of 1.3 milliseconds shouldn't be used, as it's contradicted by King noticing it happen, even though Normal Human Perception peaks at 130 milliseconds
To be fair, didn‘t Flashy, Garou and PS’s light constellation last a lot longer than just the timer? Seems the timer only started and stopped at certain times. Normal people were watching it, even on TV I think. I need to reread.If we go by this then Garou and Platinum Sperm's light constellation manga timeframe of 1.3 milliseconds shouldn't be used, as it's contradicted by King noticing it happen, even though Normal Human Perception peaks at 130 milliseconds
That just helps my point even more.To be fair, didn‘t Flashy, Garou and PS’s light constellation last a lot longer than just the timer? Seems the timer only started and stopped at certain times. Normal people were watching it, even on TV I think. I need to reread.
I agree with this, i have no idea why this wasn’t done beforehand.Suiryu and Choze were completely FTE to the Martial Artists in that page. The part of the feat I calced was only on that page, and did not include the extra distance Suiryu and Choze moved afterwards.Thus, calcing the entire distance moved can and should be used.
This doesn't help your point even remotely. It likely does the exact opposite (showing that real life timeframes can't be applied to fiction), at best means the light generated constellation itself lasted longer than their movements (something evident by the fact that there's a constellation to begin with), and has literally nothing to do with the mechanics of the Suiryu and Choze feat (based on a real life timeframe that's contradicted by the story).That just helps my point even more.
If we were to go by the notion that Garou and PS' timer was only showing the amount of time that it took to create the constellation, then we could do the same for Suiryu and Choze's.
Suiryu and Choze were completely FTE to the Martial Artists in that page. The part of the feat I calced was only on that page, and did not include the extra distance Suiryu and Choze moved afterwards.Thus, calcing the entire distance moved can and should be used.
The crowd moved during the event, and spoke while they still moved at FTE speeds. This is not retroactive.I agree with this, i have no idea why this wasn’t done beforehand.
They moved that entire distance AND THEN we got a reaction from the crowd.
1. PS and Garou moved a specific distance in 13 millisecondsThis doesn't help your point even remotely. It likely does the exact opposite (showing that real life timeframes can't be applied to fiction), at best means the light generated constellation itself lasted longer than their movements (something evident by the fact that there's a constellation to begin with), and has literally nothing to do with the mechanics of the Suiryu and Choze feat (based on a real life timeframe that's contradicted by the story).
They spoke after than page. I'm calcing the distance they moved during the moment they were FTE before the Martial Artists could speak.The crowd moved during the event, and spoke while they still moved at FTE speeds. This is not retroactive.
1. Choze and Suiryu didn't, and we're trying to draw a timeframe specifically from the characters themselves. So this is not relevant, especially since King only noticed the light generated by the constellation, not their movements.1. PS and Garou moved a specific distance in 13 milliseconds
2. Which is contradicted by them reacting to the events.2. Choze and Suiryu moved a specific distance in enough time to be FTE to the Martial artists in that moment (1/220 of a second)
They still spoke while FTE shit was occurring, and moved at least a little during the feat itself. One part of the feat happening before they spoke doesn't change the fact that they could still speak during a part that was also FTE.They spoke after than page.
I know what you're calcing, bruh. I already calculated it. What we disagree on is them scaling to the entire distance.I'm calcing the distance they moved during the moment they were FTE before the Martial Artists could speak.
They moved? When?The crowd moved during the event, and spoke while they still moved at FTE speeds. This is not retroactive.
After the moment that's being calced.They still spoke while FTE shit was occurring
?and moved at least a little during the feat itself.
The reason you disagree on calcing the entire distance is due to the Martial Artists speaking entire sentences. This is not an issue because they weren't able to speak during the moment that's being calced due to their speed and the timeframe they moved the distance they did (1/220 of a second).What we disagree on is them scaling to the entire distance.
They clearly move at least a littleThey moved? When?
For the last time, explicitly FTE shit was still going on while they were talking. Both events would supposedly happen in a 1/220th timeframe.They didn’t speak at all when they moved the initial distance, they traveled that entire distance, and then we get them questioning what just happened and then them stating they can’t see them at all.
Perception speed is significantly faster than reaction speed, let alone speaking entire sentences that the other characters could react to.Them speaking doesn’t suggest this doesn’t happen in a small timeframe,
This isn't about tiny movements, it's about responding to stimuli and shit.they could be making thousand more movements while they’re talking if anything.
Repeating irrelevant points doesn't make them less irrelevant.After the moment that's being calced.
That doesn't show them moving. I'm confused.
The movement is more noticeable on the guy with the tall hair than the others.Look at the first panel. In the third, they're reeling backwards a bit from the clash and not exactly where they were in the second.
Anyway, I don't see a point in listening to the same arguments.
@Therefir @Damage3245 What do you think?
At the moment I think your arguments make more sense.What about the argument in general? Do you think we should apply the full movement to the timeframe?
How?At the moment I think your arguments make more sense.