stat equal fusion tournament: The Demon Spider vs Tatsumaki Refutus

[Popted2]

Shiki Parker FRA

 

[speedster352]

Anyways, Shiki parker is just to skilled and his vast array of abilities an moves that completely shut down or counter most if not all of tatsumaki's abilities.

So I'm voting Shiki Parker

Did you see this? Tatsu can manpulate his chi to destroy him

Fine but tasumaki can resist it since she laughed at 300x gravity and have equal LS, barriers, aura and etc. She can distract them while the eggs are hatching which just takes a few seconds. And seal their powers

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Gravity Spider FRA

 

[Zackra1799]

Did you see this? Tatsu can manpulate his chi to destroy him

Shiki has attack reflection barriers, regenerating armor, and anything she throws at him gets precog'ed and has their Kinetic energy absorbed. He also has better mobility than tatsumaki given they both can fly but he has peter's web swing skills + an artificial interface that can help him out in battle with location information and best places to place his webs for maximum effectiveness.

she can't really distract him that much.

 

[speedster352]

Shiki has attack reflection barriers, regenerating armor, and anything she throws at him gets precog'ed and has their Kinetic energy absorbed. He also has better mobility than tatsumaki given they both can fly but he has grapples using webs + an artificial interface that can help him out in battle with location information and best places to place his webs for maximum effectiveness.

she can't really distract him that much.

You haven't coutered the chi attack it will destroy them from the inside.

 

[Cryo123]

Shiki Parker the Gravity Spider FRA.

 

[Zackra1799]

You haven't coutered the chi attack it will destroy them from the inside.

Don't see dura neg on tatsumaki's profile so just gonna ignore this

 

[speedster352]

Don't see dura neg on tatsumaki's profile so just gonna ignore this

• Chi/Aura Manipulation: Using her physic powers, Tornado can manipulate the inner energy of a person and force it to move and bend to her will, causing severe damage to her opponent. People with incredibly strong wills can resist this (Saitama, Garou, Golden Sperm).

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

• Chi/Aura Manipulation: Using her physic powers, Tornado can manipulate the inner energy of a person and force it to move and bend to her will, causing severe damage to her opponent. People with incredibly strong wills can resist this (Saitama, Garou, Golden Sperm).

Manipulating their inner chi=/= destroying their insides

 

[Zackra1799]

• Chi/Aura Manipulation: Using her physic powers, Tornado can manipulate the inner energy of a person and force it to move and bend to her will, causing severe damage to her opponent. People with incredibly strong wills can resist this (Saitama, Garou, Golden Sperm).

That's just TK with extra steps, something that Shiki parker can counter by just amping his own weight via self-gravity manip making him much harder to move

 

[Popted2]

• Chi/Aura Manipulation: Using her physic powers, Tornado can manipulate the inner energy of a person and force it to move and bend to her will, causing severe damage to her opponent. People with incredibly strong wills can resist this (Saitama, Garou, Golden Sperm).

and it doesn't works on people with strong wills, and Shiki and parker both have it

 

[Cryo123]

and it doesn't works on people with strong wills, and Shiki and parker both have it

I mean unless someone is going to argue GS and Genos have stronger willpowers than Spider-Man lmao.

 

[speedster352]

Whatever Shiki fra

 

[Arnoldstone18]

What’s shiki’s Dura neg?

Dark spider FRA btw

 

[Zackra1799]

What’s shiki’s Dura neg?

Dark spider FRA btw

It comes from his gravity, applying gravity on an opponent for an amount of time crushes their capillaries and internal organs

 

[speedster352]

It comes from his gravity, applying gravity on an opponent for an amount of time crushes their capillaries and internal organs

And this is fair how?

 

[Zackra1799]

And this is fair how?

This is mid hax bro, basic dura neg is very much allowed otherwise most combatants in the tourney wouldn't be useable

 

[Kachon123]

Demon Spider FRA

 

[Spinoirr]

This is mid hax bro, basic dura neg is very much allowed otherwise most combatants in the tourney wouldn't be useable

Yeah

 

[Spinoirr]

Votes?

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Votes?

Only 6 so far if i didn't miscounted it Zackra, Popted, Cyro, Kachon, Me, Speedster.

 

[Spinoirr]

And who voted for who

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

And who voted for who

Shiki Parker Demon Spider

 

[speedster352]

Demon Spider FRA

Aren't you a one punch supporter?

 

[Phoenks]

I am incredibly confused by this thread.

match starts > Tatsumaki thinks > Both of them get crushed.

Gravity manipulation is a non-issue given her LS, even if it is equalized. She resists TK which has far greater than 2300x earth gravity LS anyway. TK can be used to mitigate its effects as well.

Please prove that either of them can analytically predict / instinctive react to THOUGHTS. please.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Please prove that either of them can analytically predict / instinctive react to THOUGHTS. please.

Well, he does... sense.. killing intent...

 

[Phoenks]

Well, he does... sense.. killing intent...

That doesn't really matter. She thinks, he gets crushed the moment he senses it. It's kilometers in range so he can't just dodge it lol.

She starts with this in basically every scenario.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Gravity manipulation is a non-issue given her LS, even if it is equalized. She resists TK which has far greater than 2300x earth gravity LS anyway.

still equalized.

 

[Phoenks]

still equalized.

Doesn't matter.

Her TK should be enough to mitigate the effects of the gravity manip and even if it doesn't her TK activates first anyways. Unless you can prove he will start with thought-based 2300x gravity 100% of the time.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

That doesn't really matter. She thinks, he gets crushed the moment he senses it. It's kilometers in range so he can't just dodge it lol.

She starts with this in basically every scenario.

so why does Shiki resist at equalized LS?

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

I am incredibly confused by this thread.

match starts > Tatsumaki thinks > Both of them get crushed.

Gravity manipulation is a non-issue given her LS, even if it is equalized. She resists TK which has far greater than 2300x earth gravity LS anyway. TK can be used to mitigate its effects as well.

Please prove that either of them can analytically predict / instinctive react to THOUGHTS. please.

Only 300x tho? where did she show to resist 2300x earth gravity LS? also the 2300x earth gravity LS that Shiki did was fodder compared to what his gravity can do now

Edit: Also not only did his gravity improved on a large margin he can resist higher gravity now Post-Timeskip

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Only 300x tho? where did she show to resist 2300x earth gravity LS? also the 2300x earth gravity LS that Shiki dis was fodder compared to what his gravity can do now

Doesn't even matter it's equalized.

 

[Phoenks]

Only 300x tho? where did she show to resist 2300x earth gravity LS? also the 2300x earth gravity LS that Shiki dis was fodder compared to what his gravity can do now

The thing is she resists psychic locks by characters with LS equivalent to far higher than 2300x earth gravity.

Also pretty sure she can just use her own TK to cancel it out.

+ Her TK is thought-based so doesn't she activate it before he reasonably can activate his gravity?

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Doesn't even matter it's equalized.

I'm just counter what he said well since it's equalized it Tats can't TK him since they have the same LS

 

[Phoenks]

I'm just counter what he said well since it's equalized it Tats can't TK him since they have the same LS

He doesn't resist TK so I don't know why you're saying she can't.

Having the same LS doesn't mean you are unaffected by TK. It'll just have less of an effect, I believe.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

The thing is she resists psychic locks by characters with LS equivalent to far higher than 2300x earth gravity.

I mean where tho? give me a scan cause iirc there wasn't stated someone to have that kind of shit?

 

[Arnoldstone18]

I'm just counter what he said well since it's equalized it Tats can't TK him since they have the same LS

It's derailing tbh

 

[Arnoldstone18]

He doesn't resist TK so I don't know why you're saying she can't.

Having the same LS doesn't mean you are unaffected by TK. It'll just have less of an effect, I believe.

he doesnt resist? interesting.

 

[Phoenks]

I mean where tho? give me a scan cause iirc there wasn't stated someone to have that kind of shit?

Even without her barrier (WHILE holding back), she was able to survive being crushed with gravity manip by Psykosorochi (Read a couple of pages), a FAR stronger entity than both Psykos and Gyoro Gyroro. Albeit she was greatly damaged.

Psycorochi has Class T LS.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Even without her barrier (WHILE holding back), she was able to survive being crushed with gravity manip by Psykosorochi (Read a couple of pages), a FAR stronger entity than both Psykos and Gyoro Gyroro. Albeit she was greatly damaged.

Psycorochi has Class T LS.

And? so is Post Xenolith training shiki and Post Timeskip? not on the psykosorochi tho