Spirit Circle MASSIVE REVISION: HYPERVERSAL EXPLANATION AND STUFF

[Robo432343]

1-B

Able to utilize Spirit Circle to collect the observing energy of souls from other worlds that sustain the multiverse

thus causing the complete destruction of the universes adjacent to the spacetime values at the next moment. In return, the very existence of Fortuna becomes equivalent to everything that have disappeared,

witch would include the countless spiritual dimensions

as large as the material world

The extra-dimensional space and all other 28 possibly dimensions that structure it

This is why Fortuna is Hyperversal with the Spirit Circle


Abilities
Non physical Interaction: Can interact with souls
Pain Tolerance: Fought for a long time without his limbs tiring, even though some were cut off at the start of the battle

Immeasurable Speed
Souls exist outside and are not bound by linear time, beyond heavens river.

 

[Robo432343]

 

[PrinceofPein]

I have not checked the rest, but there is no immeasurable speed right there in your post.
Also stop paraphrasing stuff to mean what is not in the scans

 

[Robo432343]

I have not checked the rest, but there is no immeasurable speed right there in your post.

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[Planck69]

I'm neutral, leaning on agree.

 

[Robo432343]

im just adding scans because the original profile is vague as hell

 

[Tatsumi504]

Nothing here indicates qualitative superiority between the dimensions. Got anything better?

 

[Vietthai96]

Nothing here indicates qualitative superiority between the dimensions. Got anything better?

Why people are so clingy to qualitative superior for tier 1, it is just 1 of many ways, it is not a mandatory. If the dimension is significantly large, fully-sized then it is qualify, no need qualitative superior, qualitative superior is used for cosmology that have no define amount of dimensions, or don't have. This case is fine, the statement is pretty clear that all other dimensions including a 28 dimensional plane is as large as the material world (which mean universal space-time continuum), which mean the 28D realm is significantly large, fully-sized, enough for tiering, unless there is another contexts to disprove the realm

 

[Robo432343]

Fortuna

Fortuna may refer to: The character from Supernatural The character from Spirit Circle Fortune (Metal Gear)

vsbattles.fandom.com

the character is already hyperversal. the profile is just vague and doesn't have scans to support anything

 

[PrinceofPein]

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I am talking about your immeasurable speed, the soul leaving the river of time when someone dies does not mean souls have immeasureable speed in any means or form

 

[Vietthai96]

That look like evidence for Acausality 4 for soul, well it can ne supporting evidence for Immeasurable speed, but not enough

 

[ImmortalDread]

Why people are so clingy to qualitative superior for tier 1, it is just 1 of many ways, it is not a mandatory. If the dimension is significantly large, fully-sized then it is qualify, no need qualitative superior, qualitative superior is used for cosmology that have no define amount of dimensions, or don't have. This case is fine, the statement is pretty clear that all other dimensions including a 28 dimensional plane is as large as the material world (which mean universal space-time continuum), which mean the 28D realm is significantly large, fully-sized, enough for tiering, unless there is another contexts to disprove the realm

To climb to a higher tier, one must meet the conditions for qualitative superiority. This term refers to the standard of excellence that must be achieved in any method used to progress to a higher tier. Do you understand the term?

 

[PrinceofPein]

look bro

this one gonna be debatable

they are not traveling through time, but outside of time, so yes that is not immeasureable speed but a verse mechanic.
Also this is literally an analogy about how you reincarnate, nothing about speed

 

[ImmortalDread]

In order for any "other ways" to be considered, they must also meet the conditions for qualitative superiority. Your response suggests a lack of understanding of my previous statement.

 

[Vietthai96]

To climb to a higher tier, one must meet the conditions for qualitative superiority. This term refers to the standard of excellence that must be achieved in any method used to progress to a higher tier. Do you understand the term?

And i have been reading the tiering system along with its FAQ for 6 years and i can assure you that, no you don't really need qualitative superior for everything tier 1 onward

they are not traveling through time, but outside of time, so yes that is not immeasureable speed but a verse mechanic.
Also this is literally an analogy about how you reincarnate, nothing about speed

Hmm, well from this i agree with Pain

 

[PrinceofPein]

ok what about this

this also says nothing about speed, what are you reaching for?

 

[Iiliminal]

fortuna > fiction

 

[ImmortalDread]

And i have been reading the tiering system along with its FAQ for 6 years and i can assure you that, no you don't really need qualitative superior for everything tier 1 onward

Since you’ve been a power scaler for six years in this page, could you list those “ways” you keep mentioning?

 

[Robo432343]

this also says nothing about speed, what are you reaching for?

heavens river is a space time coordinate thingy and soul exist outside that

 

[Robo432343]

 

[PrinceofPein]

heavens river is a space time coordinate thingy and soul exist outside that

and has nothing to do with speed

 

[Planck69]

Before people start spewing "Muh qualitatively superior, b-but battleboard jargon", dimensions just have to be significantly sized to qualify and not like, planck lengths in scale. Provided of course the proposed tier isn't heavily contradicted.

Planes of existence are what require qualitative superiority to be proven more often than not.

Anyway, still neutral to that tier.

 

[ImmortalDread]

The interpretation pertains to parallel worlds rather than spatial dimensions, as indicated in the scan you provided.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Before people start spewing "Muh qualitatively superior, b-but battleboard jargon", dimensions just have to be significantly sized to qualify and not like, planck lengths in scale. Provided of course the proposed tier isn't heavily contradicted.

Planes of existence are what require qualitative superiority to be proven more often than not.

Anyway, still neutral to that tier.

Love you :3 Thanks

 

[Planck69]

The "28 dimensional" statement clearly refers to spatial axes (it wouldn't make sense in any other sense as far as I'm aware). Whether or not we allow upgrades from this single statement was what I'm unsure of.

....Then again, DMC exists and doesn't break rules so eh. Count me as agreeing to a "Likely 1-B" rating for now.

 

[Vietthai96]

Oke, so from the contexts, the river which is the physical world mean time flow linear from past to future (the river is an analogy for how the physical world and how time flow in one direction). When you die your soul exist the physical world which is the river, the linear flow of time and you can freely move up and down the stream of the river, which is the analogy for move backward and forward in time freely. Well you can say Immeasurable speed here, but since i do not know the verse, i will refrain from decide this stuff

Since you’ve been a power scaler for six years in this page, could you list those “ways” you keep mentioning?

Got ninja'd by Planck but yeah, aside from the popular qualitative superior and reality-fiction transcendence, we have mathematical, Apophatic Theology which used by Fate, some multiverse theory like Max Tegmak's Multiverse theory, Actual Platonism. The type me and Planck said about used by TTGL, Honkai Impact, Toaru Majutsu no Index as they have realm possesses more than 4 dimensional axes and are significantly large, fully-sized, DMC currently also counted

 

[ImmortalDread]

more supporting stuff

Oh, now it makes sense, ya, I agree.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Got ninja'd by Planck but yeah, aside from the popular qualitative superior and reality-fiction transcendence, we have mathematical, Apophatic Theology which used by Fate, some multiverse theory like Max Tegmak's Multiverse theory, Actual Platonism. The type me and Planck said about used by TTGL, Honkai Impact, Toaru Majutsu no Index as they have realm possesses more than 4 dimensional axes and are significantly large, fully-sized, DMC currently also counted

What Planck said, is exactly what I said.

 

[Robo432343]

Oke, so from the contexts, the river which is the physical world mean time flow linear from past to future (the river is an analogy for how the physical world and how time flow in one direction). When you die your soul exist the physical world which is the river, the linear flow of time and you can freely move up and down the stream of the river, which is the analogy for move backward and forward in time freely. Well you can say Immeasurable speed here, but since i do not know the verse, i will refrain from decide this stuff

YES

 

[Vietthai96]

What Planck said, is exactly what I said.

Huh??, sorry but i'm not seeing anything he said exactly like what you said.....

 

[ImmortalDread]

Huh??, sorry but i'm not seeing anything he said exactly like what you said.....

Don't worry, no need to be sorry

 

[Vietthai96]

Why you and Micah are so complicated, hard to understand

 

[Tatsumi504]

significantly large, fully-sized

What qualifies as significantly large and fully sized?
If this is true why isn't 26D Ben 10 accepted? I also seem to recall ID having a statement for someone who can travel through a 4th spatial axis and it still wasn't accepted. All i see here is double standards

 

[Vietthai96]

What qualifies as significantly large and fully sized?
If this is true why isn't 26D Ben 10 accepted? I also seem to recall ID having a statement for someone who can travel through a 4th spatial axis and it still wasn't accepted. All i see here is double standards

Idk about Ben 10 to say anything to be honest

 

[Planck69]

What qualifies as significantly large and fully sized?
If this is true why isn't 26D Ben 10 accepted? I also seem to recall ID having a statement for someone who can travel through a 4th spatial axis and it still wasn't accepted. All I see here is double standards

If you feel that strongly about it then you were welcome to argue for those cases. Ben 10 was just a reference to a physics theory that didn't give a higher tier in and of itself IIRC. Idk about ID.

 

[Vasco]

. If the dimension is significantly large, fully-sized then it is qualify, no need qualitative superior,

Can you show me where in the FAQ or tiering system page such is mentioned?

 

[Vasco]

And i have been reading the tiering system along with its FAQ for 6 years and i can assure you that, no you don't really need qualitative superior for everything tier 1 onward

I've heard R>F difference isn't compulsory but saying no need to prove qualitative superiority, I've never seen or heard that before.

 

[Vietthai96]

Can you show me where in the FAQ or tiering system page such is mentioned?

From FAQ:

However, vaguer cases where a universe is merely stated to be higher-dimensional while existing in a scaling vacuum with no previously established relationship of superiority towards lower-dimensional ones (or no evidence to infer such a relationship from) should be analysed more carefully. In such cases where information as to their exact nature and scale is scarce, it is preferable that the higher dimensions in question be fully-sized in order to qualify.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Why you and Micah are so complicated, hard to understand

Women

 

[ImmortalDread]

Can you show me where in the FAQ or tiering system page such is mentioned?

There is none, Vasco. I don't think he is understanding the term's existence at all and seems to be a hater for it.