“Not made with future movies in mind” would destroy scaling over several verses (ex. Star Wars). It’s a very weak argument. Across this thread, we’ve proven that Tier 8 is very consistent for these characters. The time after the movies isn’t ambiguous. Electro comments on how TASM Peter is still young
Except that the very first scene he's in has him, and I'm quoting ned here
Leave it to the MCU to accomplish that.
He was charging energy, but not enough to where he experienced the full potential of the energy the MCU had in store. Some power lines out in the woods compared to the crazy advanced technology of the MCU is...not nearly comparable. Plus, we now have over 70 calcs of Electro's power so this can't be used as a counterpoint
The calcs aren't really a selling point of this tho.
I can only imagine what his tiering level would have been if he got his hands on some Stark tech.
Eh, doesn't matter ultimately since I trust Electro's word over the possibility that the power he took from those lines out in the forest amplified him to incredibly drastic heights. Plus, the calcs are a great way to show people he wasn't just a 9-B character until NWH
ahem Arc Reactor ahem
"the power, it's different. I like it.", and the line: "I want a taste of that new energy I just felt." is in the scene right after that. Some power lines in the wood is still what he called a new, better energy, and he absorbed it, so he can, and must, definitively get a NWH energy key.
No, this doesn't warrant that at all. Yes, he liked the energy he felt, but to say it was comparable to the higher level electrical devices in the MCU is straight up wrong. Its even suggested he didn't get that much of the MCU's energy since he told MJ that he very much so wanted a taste of the new energy. This tells us he only ever got a VERY small fraction of the energy here
ahem sorry totally forgot about that part
ahem
I'd call in the Eternals if he ever got his hands on that one lmao
As if he has the durability to handle the power stoneahem sorry totally forgot about that part
Though I meant things like the gigantic arc reactor or the original building he used to help power the city.
Hell, if he got his hands on something like the Power Stone he'd be pretty unstoppable.
I'd love to see Phastos assemble an infinity gauntlet!
That big-ass arc reactor got nuked when Stane fell on it, remember?ahem sorry totally forgot about that part
Though I meant things like the gigantic arc reactor or the original building he used to help power the city.
Hell, if he got his hands on something like the Power Stone he'd be pretty unstoppable.
That last point only warrants 3-A
I figured he possibly could considering how he can absorb energy at a highly accelerated rate, though I'd agree it'd be a long shot even for him.
Imagine if Electro got his hands on a modern arc reactor. Remember, the arc reactor he used is an outdated one.
I never said that he should scale to the higher level electrical devices in the mcu, I said that he is explicitly stronger than before and thus should get another key with "stronger than before" and possibly an "at least" before his rating.
I do remember and I enjoyed seeing him get fried like that
as you say the Stark Tower one could still be an option.
Due to the limited amount of energy he received from the MCU, I don't believe this is warranted, but I understand what you mean
Sorry I might be a bit ignorant to the differences, but I thought that anything involving the time aspect of a singular universe and not just the space and matter within, both creation and destruction would be Low 2-C?
It's fine for Electro but it enters outlier territory for the Spider-Men, seeing as their best feat are the Pumpkin bombs, and the natural lightning bolts that Electro can summon, use and abuse from the clouds. At least if the mean is not used right now, but we have to re-do the means given the recalc I just did.
I think it had something to do with what happened in NWH and how the feats used were a point of contention? I could be wrong though.
I'm not necessarily sure as to how the mechanics for blowing up the time aspect instead of the 3-D aspect work.
Iirc that's regarded as High 3-A if it's time destruction. Take this with a grain of salt tho because I'm unsure
Same! I understand the essentials of it but the differences between 3-A and Low 2-C can be a bit confusing for me.
I mean, aren’t lightning bolts also quite variable in energy? I’d find it weird that he’d attack with much lesser energy than he contains himself. Specially since he became (somewhat) stronger in the MCU.
Oh, we'll be using the very casual 8-C electrical values + casual lightning to scale to the Spider-Men. Just not his higher and peak values
Isn't High 3-A only infinite space while Low 2-C is infinite space + time
Much like the great Wenwu, I've opened a door here and now untold horrors will spill from it.
I don't quite remember, I'm just vaguely remembering
If that's true then if he has the Time Stone wouldn't he qualify?
Yeah but it’s only done for the sake of it being consistent. If it goes on like that it kinda becomes circular logic.
Also, it doesn't need to be infinite space because if you're already affecting the universe's space-time, then it's automatically Low 2-C
